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1937-D Buffalo Nickel With Something Odd...

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 Posted 02/03/2014  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jolson to your friends list
I see the line on the E starts on the E... so your opinion is PMD? Or was this a minting error? The D does seem to be PMD, no doubt, but the theory that the metal from the D transferred over to the E doesn't seem to make sense as they are different shapes and the meal on the E appears to be a bigger mass then what is missing from the D?
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 Posted 02/04/2014  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave42 to your friends list
The metal on the E could be a die chip, where a tiny piece of the die broke off and left a void on the die, so that when the coin is struck it would leave a raised area on the coin. It's so small though, that it probably would not add any value to the coin. The D is PMD, looks like it took a hit.
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 Posted 02/04/2014  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I agree with Dave42, the E could be a die chip and the D definitely looks like PMD.
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 Posted 02/04/2014  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list
Odd. And if you look closely under the "C", you see what appears to be a nearly identically shaped outline of the same thing, almost if drawn by a pencil...
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 Posted 02/04/2014  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list
If the E took a hit, and moved copper, the piece getting moved would appear smaller than the metal missing from the device, and this extra metal being relocated would raise up off of the surface because, it will follow the path of least resistance. PMD all the way on this one.
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 Posted 02/04/2014  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
If it is moved metal, it would be not really attached and could be removed. But if it is a die chip, it can't be removed.
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 Posted 02/04/2014  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list
I have seen lots of metal moved from a device but still attached to the same device. After wear and tear, it looks like it was always there.
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 Posted 02/04/2014  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list
Maybe pushed out of placed is the better terminology to us in this example.
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 Posted 02/04/2014  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jolson to your friends list
Ok so anywhere from die chip to PMD... If this helps I got a Q-tip and tried to move it... What ever it is; it sure is fuzzed in. Plus I looked under a microscope and it seems to blend into the metal perfectly (as in being one part). What ever it is sure is fixed in that position... does this new info change anyone's mind?
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 Posted 02/04/2014  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list
jolson, I did not mean to say this metal is a lamination peel or loose in anyway. What I was trying to say was that the letter E took a hit, from a solid object, not a Q tip. After the hit, ding, whatever it was, the force relocated a small piece of the device (letter E) in this case. This would be PMD IMO, but even if I am wrong and it is in fact a die chip, there would be no real value added to the coin.
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 Posted 02/04/2014  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jolson to your friends list
@chzman, I really appreciate your help as you obviously know about error coins then I. I do not mean to sound difficult, but I want to understand, are you saying that at some point in the past the "E" was hit and somehow "smashed" a little bit upward kind of like a pinch?
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 Posted 02/04/2014  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list
I know that you are not trying to be difficult, your good dude. That's what I believe happened, but I have been wrong before, and certainly do not know that much more than you, it is a constant learning process for me as well. But overall, for this particular coin, no matter if it was hit like I theorize, or if it is a die chip like others may suggest, the coin is not worth a premium to you as an error collector. If you are really interested in errors and varieties, then you must have a better understanding the minting process. To do this, get on youtube and watch some good videos on how the minting process works, this will help you understand how some errors, and varieties are created. Read this to- http://doubleddie.com/58201.html Then get a good book, read it cover to cover, make a cheat sheet, with the errors and varieties that you find the most appealing and start roll searching. A great starting book IMO is "Strike It Rich" written by Ken Potter and Brian Allen.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jolson to your friends list
Thanks!
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 Posted 02/05/2014  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
After looking at the pictures again I'm going to change my opinion. The bottom bar of the E has taken a hit which has "shaved" metal off of it and pushed it down to form the "chip". If you look carefully at the bottom bar you can see that thearea just right of the upright almost out to the end of the bar is lower than the areas just to the left and right of it. That is the area that got "shaved". It remained attached at the left end, pushed down and down against the field. With some magnification and some good light if you look at it at a very shallow angle you will probably see that it is not attached to the field under it.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jolson to your friends list
Thank you everyone, you have been very helpful. Once again CCF proves to be the place to be!
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