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Yes, it almost certainly seems to be S-65. One can just about still see the die break between E and S on the reverse.
It is an appealing example with nice surfaces, and a weak reverse.
An overall grade of about F12 would seem correct.
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It is S-65. I have one :-)
The obverse will carry it slightly, but I'm seeing wear not strike on the reverse.
VG10
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Wow! That is a beauty  . |
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I will guess it graded VF-20 details. The obverse seems to have a number of crisscrossing hairlines and a greater concentration of dirt and light corrosion which seems to suggest to me it may have been cleaned and/or wiped a little bit. It is not unusual to find this with a weak reverse especially in latter die states. I think weakness in One Cent is mostly due to sinking die. Some of the weakness in America and in Liberty, as those are opposite one another, is due to the misalignment of the dies that characterizes this variety.
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F-12.
Edited by Joseph7420
03/23/2014 11:43 am
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Really nice coin Cipster!
I will net it at Fine.
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Thanks for all of your responses. The grade is PCGS Fine Details - cleaning. I'm not experienced enough to disagree, but just could not see the evidence of cleaning and really liked the smooth surface. Quote:
crisscrossing hairlines and a greater concentration of dirt and light corrosion. It may have been cleaned and/or wiped a little bit. Thanks D0ubl3Eagle for your insight into the evidence on the obverse. Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith Edited by cipster
03/24/2014 09:52 am
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I forgot to mention in my previous post that the concentration of dirt and corrosion seemed to greater around the edges of the devices like the cap and chin. Those areas are protected by the devices and where the old surface is most likely to survive something like a cleaning.
Edited by D0ubl3Eagle
03/24/2014 10:44 am
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As a kid, when I saw these coins, I always thought that her hat was flying away in the wind. Hehe.
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Nice coin. If a seller offers enough of a discount I always buy cleaned coins. I believe 90% of all coins out there have been cleaned to some extent at some time. 1790's copper like that it wouldn't take a big discount either to entice me. Most have details grade for corrosion. I like your coin. Beautiful obverse.
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I would put this one at VG10 it's a nice looking coin, my favorite EAC's are the 1794 LC's too, I'm still learning about them and have not had anywhere near enough in hand to really be able to get the Sheldon numbers yet, but I'm working on it. PCGS seems to grade one to two points higher than the EAC grades these old coppers. There is a new EAC grading guide that will be shipping at the EAC convention in Colorado Springs next month April/May. Can't wait to get it and delve into more EAC grading insights.
I like your 1794 cipster, it's a lot nicer than the two I have so far.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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