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Stereoscope Selection Advice Requested. Thanks.

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 Posted 04/25/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gestin to your friends list
Thanks again for your guidance SuperDave.

Yes, that macro lens is pricy!

My Nikon lens lineup consists of:

  • Nikon DX 35mm prime, f/1.8, 52mm front lens thread

  • Nikon 85mm prime, f/1.8, 62mm front lens thread, with aperture ring

  • Nikon DX Telephoto Kit lens, 18-105mm, f/3.5-5.6, 67mm front lens thread


So for the "Reversing Lens" method, both of my prime lenses fall outside of the 50-75mm you mentioned. My D90 has a 1.5 crop factor for the sensor.... not sure if that comes into play here. Maybe the 85mm is still a good candidate? The 85mm is a really nice lens and has the benefit having a manually adjustable aperture ring where the other two strictly DX lenses do not. So in addition to the already required Nikon (or equiv) BR-2A Reversing Ring (~$40), I would also need to get a Nikon (or equiv) BR-5 62mm-52mm adapter ring (~$29) to make it work.

A Set of 3 extension tubes (man there are a million brands out there) would be in the sme price range as the two reversing components mentioned above (some more and some less $$). Maybe the extension tubes route is the better way to go given I can mixup the different combinations of extension tubes and use them for all of my lenses?

I am curious which of the two methods above (reversing lens vs. extension tubes) provides a sharper image? or will they provide the same result and it would really come down to convenience of setting it up? Price wise they are both very inexpensive solutions like you said.

Ok, sounds like the stereoscope is a no brainer for the detail viewing and imagery. So when you mentioned a couple posts ago:


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So your scope will want a low mag setting for imagery, and 30-40x (max) for your eye.


You are referring to the 3.5x-45x as the ideal choice, right? And the 3.5x-90x will not be of any benefit, correct? The 45x to 90x zoom range of the later in these scopes is really too close to have any practical use when looking for small coin error/variety details? Sorry, beat this dead horse, I just want to make sure getting the 3.5x-90x for $30 more is a waste of money or is it worth the small increased investment given my intended use. I haven't looked into one of these scopes to have a frame of reference unfortunately.

Thanks again guys for helping me spend my money.
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 Posted 04/25/2014  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
Your 85mm f1.8, with extension tubes, will be the solution of choice for full-coin imaging. You will need some Nikon extension tubes, available fairly cheaply on ebay. Get the ones that don't have any electronic connections as you will use the lens with manual aperture and manual focus. I can't suggest how many or what length tubes to get, so you'll need to experiment. The lens itself will be set to f5.6 for Dimes/Cents/Nickels/Quarters and f8 for Halves/Dollars. Should give you excellent images...Ray
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 Posted 04/25/2014  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gestin to your friends list
Thanks Ray.

I am searching ebay right now and have about a million hits to plough through! Do you think I should go with Nikon tubes (if Nikon makes them)? or run with some 3rd party tubes. If I don't go with the electrical contact tubes.... there's not much else that can go wrong I guess.... just quality material and secure fit is all that's left to be concerned about I suppose. I think I will check some reviews to see what brand is reputable. I am ok spending a little more for a better quality set if necessary. I see most sets come with three tubes (12mm, 20mm, and 36mm).

Thanks again!
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 Posted 04/26/2014  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gestin to your friends list
I think I just figured out the difference between the 3.5x-45x stereoscope and the 3.5x-90x stereoscope based on the Packing List of a pair of these stereoscopes........ given a particular series AmScope stereoscope .... for instance, the SM-1TX (3.5x-45x) and the SM-1TZ (3.5x-90x), the SM-1TX is the same stereoscope as the SM-1TZ, with the exception that the SM-1TZ is just supplied with one additional Barlow (the 2x), which turns a 3.5x-45x into a 3.5x-90x?

So I could pickup the 3.5x-45x stereoscope (which is probably better suited to my needs anyway) and if down the road I have some need for 90x (even for some non-coin inspection related purpose), I would't need to go buy another stereoscope, I could just pickup a 2x Barlow and I would be good to go?

AmScope SM-1TX (3.5x-45x) http://www.amscope.com/sm-1tx.html

AmScope SM-1TZ (3.5x-90x) http://www.amscope.com/sm-1tz.html


Does that sound right? Is it that simple?
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 Posted 04/26/2014  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Does that sound right? Is it that simple?


Yup, it's that simple.
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 Posted 04/26/2014  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
One thing that may be misleading is the site implies a working distance of 8" across the whole 3.5x...90x zoom range. I believe this is not true, and that the 8" working distance is for the scope without either barlow installed. In this configuration the zoom range would be 7x...45x, still very respectable. With the 0.5x barlow the zoom range would be 3.5x...22.5x, with working distance 16". For 2x barlow the range would be 14x...90x, with working distance of 4". This is how barlows added to objectives work. If someone else has experience with this scope that says differently, please chime in. Barlows on oculars don't change the working distance..Ray
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 Posted 04/26/2014  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gestin to your friends list
Hi Ray,

I took a look at the following 7x-45x AmScope stereoscope:

AmScope SM-1T (7x-45x) http://www.amscope.com/sm-1t.html

And found that a Barlow isn't included in the packing list... which supports your thoughts on the zoom range..... but, the scope description indicates it has a 4" working distance... hmm.. tricky....

Actually, if the 7x-45x with no barlow equates to a 4" working distance,

then maybe you get 3.5x-22.5x with the 0.5x barlow (like you said) and a best case 8" working distance.

and then you get 14x-90x with the 2x barlow (like you said) and a best case 2" working distance.

You are right, it is a little misleading the way they list the working distance.... I think they list the best case working distance given the barlows (or lack thereof) included.

Just thinking here..... thanks for your input!
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 Posted 04/26/2014  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
That makes a lot of sense versus my B&L Stereo/Zooms. They have native WD of around 4", and their barlows do exactly what you describe. The SZ4's have range of 7x...3x...Ray
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 Posted 05/01/2014  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gestin to your friends list
Thanks everyone for your help!

I have the following on the way:

AmScope SM-1TX (3.5x-45x) http://www.amscope.com/sm-1tx.html Except I found it on ebay new for $325

And the associated Nikon Adapter for $88 from the same source on ebay.

I am also watching a set of extension tubes hoping to bid on those later this weekend.

Thanks again for the help.

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 Posted 07/17/2014  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
First, sorry for reviving an old thread but...

I was wondering how the Am-scope worked out. I have been reading this thread and almost sure I'm going to get the one the OP did.

I was wondering how it worked out?

Could you use it 'out of the box'? Or did you have to get attachments to make it work? ie.. wide eye piece's, light ring, ect..

Can you help me out?

I was THIS CLOSE to getting a Dino-lite micro scope at a coin show until the salesman kept blowing me off. I had cash in hand and he thought selling to people with cheack's was working better for him I guess and I walked out with out one.

I picked up a 'Opti-visor' so I could work hands free and the first time I used it and the images were 3D my thoughts went right to this thread and a stereo-scope.

I hope the OP is still around to help or anyone else that own's one for that matter.

Thanks in advanced.

Dar

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 Posted 07/18/2014  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gestin to your friends list
Hi Dar,
The AmScope trinocular stereoscope I purchased was a great buy. Everything needed came with it for viewing nice crisp views of my coins. Neatly, individually and securely packaged. Simple assembly and you are ready for many late nights of observation. Great quality product.

If you are planning to use your DSLR with it, you'll need the appropriate adapter for your camera depending its brand. AmScope can provide those too. I followed the advice of many fine and extremely knowledgable folks on this forum and purchased a set of Jansjo lights ($10 at IKEA) for more than enough and easily adjustable lighting. Getting the lighting right for photos is tricky and takes some experimenting.

Anyway, extremely happy with the my AmScope.

Hope this helps and best of luck!
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 Posted 07/19/2014  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
Thank you very much for the reply!

That's what I've been waiting for to 'pull the trigger'.

Now, all that's left is finding one at the right price.

Thank you Very Much.
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 Posted 07/19/2014  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gestin to your friends list
Good luck Dar.

I found mine brand new on ebay for $100 less than directly from AmScope. It was from a user name called precision*world. He shipped it super fast too.

Have a great day!
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 Posted 07/23/2014  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
Well, I just ordered it.

AmScope SM-1TX

ETS: Friday Aug 1st!

Can't wait to see what it's like.

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07/23/2014 12:39 pm
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 Posted 07/29/2014  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list

EDIT:

I don't know if this is Bad Form but I am going to start a new thread to ask some questions as I do not want to steal/Necro the OP's here.

Thank you.

Dar


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