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Pillar of the Community
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it is only on top of the empty flip not inside it the glare is from the proof finish and the light.  |
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Wow nice coin and crazy MM! I'm curious to see what some experts have to say...  |
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Pillar of the Community
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^^^Me too. I've never seen anything like it before.
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Waiting for Coop to show up!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like some machine damage on this one? Here is what the mint mark should look like this year:  The mint mark looks disturbed. There was no listing on Variety Vista for a RPM. The 198 on the date looks like the same machine damage in the same direction. |
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Still one crazy looking coin still a keeper in my book you can even the extra s with no loop and is far more extreme then a typical FFD. After doing more research suggests it is proof Flat Field Doubling - Please correct me if this is wrong any comments and corrections are always welcome. http://error-ref.com/flat-field-doubling.htmlFlat-Field Doubling (Imperfectly Aligned Proof Strikes And finding a example of the same year and mint mark double strike FFD Is it possible to be struck 4 times a a proof is already double struck and this example is doubled the normal FFD effect Quadruple Strike - Flat Field Doubling now that would be cool!! I found a less extreme example of the 1984-s triple s on ken potters site http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...Doubling.htmHe calls it a Double Strike - Flat Field Doubling" on the Mint mark of a 1984-S proof cent (the doubling shows on both strikes resulting in a tripled Mint mark). Double Strike - Flat Field Doubling I guess that would explain the rounded shape.  http://error-ref.com/flat-field-doubling.htmlFlat-Field Doubling (Imperfectly Aligned Proof Strikes) According error-ref Flat field doubling adds a slight premium to the value of a proof. However, when the flattened design elements are totally separated from their normal raised counterparts, the value increases greatly. This new question I did some more research to if its worthless, small premium or has increased value. Because its a misaligned proof strike does it have a premium like research on error-ref states or is it worthless doubling? Edited by OcalaFlorida
05/30/2014 08:22 am
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My first thought was Zinc Rot but those close ups look really convincing to me. I am not an M/M expert and do not collect them but I would have to say you have something there.
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Is it just me or is there some strange toneing going on around the MM and then about the same area on the REV?  It IS a Very nice coin!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Keep in mind that the proof cents are struck more than once. So it could suffer from machine damage twice and alter the devices. Flat field doubling usually makes a false device that is shallow. (Which is another form of machine damage on a coin.)  |
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Coop, that was what I was thinking. But was it once for each proof strike or did if get feed again for another 2 strikes. Do you think it happened twice cause in ken's example I see only half of what is on the coin. So basically it is a coin that possibly suffered from misaligned shifting damage twice or shifted twice on once once each of two strikes or once on each set of double strikes?
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Depending on denominations. Twice for Cents. More for larger coins. (How many I don't know) This was to make the devices raise higher and more relief on the proof coins.
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Edited by OcalaFlorida
08/27/2014 7:55 pm
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OcalaFlorida,
I'm not into "One Cent" coins, they are just to small for my eyes to focus on (LOL).
If you still have the 1984 S in the original post, send it into Wiles for the once over. Just because it is not listed right now doesn't mean that it is not a RPM. I know of another member that posts here that just got Wiles to list a 1964 D Kennedy within the past month as a new 64 D RPM-012 and it has less going on then your 84 S.
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Posted 05/29/2014 8:08 pm
