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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I could do without the prices, as many of them are off anyway, but good point on the mintage figures. I never noticed that they weren't there. I guess they weren't that important to me so far. LOL
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Valued Member
France
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I bought the latest Krause book 2008 world coins 2001-Date but I am disappointed . Many of my new coins are not referenced, if they are , no prices indicate. For certain countries references stop to 2004  (they said up to date references and prices, I say not for all). for certain country the prices are updated but for other not at all. When I see coins from Moldova, Romania and Transnistria for $40-$50  , if you find them for this price tell me I BUY ALL THEM ! I short, I expected better. |
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Valued Member
United States
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Spica brings up a good point. I have used the Krauses ever since they came out with them and never minded that "up to date" usually means a few years lag time.
Are there other reference catalogs that are as good or better than Krause for world coins? Not just specific countries, but all countries (or most of them) under one cover?
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
240 Posts |
JRC and Spica you're right. I've seen a few Krauses by now and saw that newer coins are not quite correctly evaluated and some of them are missing completely. Of course this is not fair, and I'm from Romania, so I feel that it's even more unfair to underevaluate my national coinage (lol).But anyway, the Krause is the best around and I've got to get used to this idea (if I can aford one).
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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It is a huge undertaking to catalog all the coin types from the last few centuries in the entire world, and Krause has overall done a remarkable job.  There is bound to be some weak coverage of certain areas. Send them an email and help them out if you find a mistake or missing information. Everyone asks about Krause values as if they are meaningful; in today's fast-moving market they are not. Relative values within a series, for the most part, are still meaningful. Consider though, that the Krause catalogs have in large part helped MAKE and DRIVE a healthy market in world coins, and brought them into the mainstream. Without the catalogs, I doubt prices would have moved up so quickly. Pirated electronic copies of works like this should be resisted. Krause deserves to be fairly compensated for the huge amount of work which goes into making these catalogs. If it is good enough to steal, it is good enough to pay for. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
597 Posts |
It is not only in Romania, but very possible to buy just about fake of everything made in Ukraine. Even stores on the Prospekt will sell fakes CD's of music and software. As the EU moves east, now Romania, the government in Bucharesti will have to take steps to eliminate so much copyright infringement.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
240 Posts |
The problem with Romania and other eastern countries is that people don't even know that they're doing something illegal by using copyrighted materials. Every single young boy here is taught to copy CDs with games and download movies or music from the local network believing this is the natural way and having a little shock when seeing first time an original game in a shop costing about 40$. That boy would usually think WOW!I can get it from the internet for free!This is because children don't realize that they're actuelly steeling, and they grow like this, and then everybody does it.Of course the economical state of the Romanian society is contributing to this.Families with 2 or 3 children having a monthly income of less than 200$ is not unusual here.And then, there's a lack of shops and providers of original materials, which can be found in only 5 towns or so and which provide the materials at an absolutely unafordable price for the average Romanian. For example, the 2005 Krause was sold in the numismatic club from Bucharest for 260$ even though it had a price of 100$ printed on the backcover.They said that it was because of the shipping taxes.I bet that in Romania less than 5% of the materials are licensed and original. So the EU will have a hard time reducing piratery.
t360, I'm currently searching for a free source of pictures of Romanian coins (hope I already found it!) to send to Krause and of course information and everything.
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Rest in Peace
Australia
661 Posts |
This is an excellent thread.
It is a credit to the Forum, its' principles and the members involved.
regards,
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts |
That as well applies to many other countries whose income is just merely a few hundred dollars. After paying all the utilities bills, food, transportation, etc, it just makes it ridicious to spend a sizable proportions of money on a catalogue.
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Valued Member
France
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I return for Krause. I understand the differences between value and real market prices because moving quickly at this moment. But I not accept many references missing for new coins, especially for a book which is made with "up-to-date " (what they say in sales point). I note many countries with stop references in 2004 . For kazakhstan they forgot half of the coins for example. I sent email to website krausebooks to announce them but I still did not have an answer. If Krause want to pay me, I can help us to complete their up-to-date book with photos and references that I have for new coins !  My dream is to make my passion my trade  (excuse for my English I use translator and my brain  and it is hard for me but very useful to perfect my English) |
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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I too sent an email to krause but no reply either. And my email wasn't a complaint.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
597 Posts |
You have to pay a shipping tax on a book? Is it more like a customs fee or what? I trade numismatic items from time to time with a collector in Timisoara and have not had any issues so far with stuff going back and forth via registered.
What if the catalog is a year or two old now, and has no high value, would that work better?
BTW I have really gotten into the Romanian numismatics, I think the banknotes and coins from there are undiscovered and unappreciated treasures. Now I am collecting all pre-1948 banknotes from there. I want to do the 20 Lei in gold at sometime too.
Edited by Scottishmoney
08/21/2007 5:54 pm
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
240 Posts |
Scottishmoney wrote: "You have to pay a shipping tax on a book?" https://www.krausebooks.com/help says: "Air Printed Matter: $20.95 for the first item and $5.95 for each additional International First Class: $32.95 for the first item and $7.95 for each additional Worldwide Express: $42.95 for the first item and $7.95 for each additional" Your friend is lucky because he lives in Timisoara, which is a recognized cultural center, together with Cluj, which are towns close to the western border and which get occidental influences easier than the eastern part of the country. With the paper Romanian money you'll have some hard time getting the pre 1900 ones because they're very scarce. As for the gold coins there are just a few years so you won't have that much trouble, but they are very expensive. http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/370323...ml#div_photohttp://www.okazii.ro/catalog/370322...ml#div_photohttp://www.okazii.ro/catalog/370323...ml#div_photo |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
240 Posts |
WOW chrisld! thank you! But why would there be such a difference?
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