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1886 Morgan.. You Vs. NGC

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 Posted 08/07/2014  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasingtailbar to your friends list
64 at best.
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 Posted 08/07/2014  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list
MS-64.
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MS-64
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 Posted 08/07/2014  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list
Realistically it's an MS-64, doesn't have the dripping luster to attain the GEM Grade.
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 Posted 08/07/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list
I'll shoot the gap. MS65. Very nice
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 Posted 08/07/2014  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
What's not to love with the VAM-6 LDS. I'll guess NGC said MS-64.
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 Posted 08/08/2014  05:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list
with MS64.
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 Posted 08/08/2014  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list
I agree with Dave on the great LDS VAM. Love the die sinking. Think NGC might drop to a MS63 though. Both of the high tier TPG's are being tough with their grading of late (IMO and a few others).. PG
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MS-64
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 Posted 08/08/2014  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list
The shadow is covering the cheek, so it's difficult to grade. I can't really see all of the contact marks, and since that is the point of interest in grading Morgans...

Possibly MS-65
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 Posted 08/08/2014  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
Its a little hard to tell with the dark area over the cheek but I'll guess they gave it a MS-63.
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 Posted 08/09/2014  03:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'm at MS63 on this one.
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 Posted 08/09/2014  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list
NGC gave this one a MS64.
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May I please chime in AFTER the fact. I am trying to learn more about grading. I confess I would have said MS63


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 Posted 08/09/2014  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I think 64's a fair grade, and this one's a solid example of that number. Maybe even "high-end" for a 64. It's as important to evaluate the photography as precisely as the coin in cases like this, and I'm seeing the marks on the cheek being somewhat downplayed by the imagery. Not that they're all that prominent, but enough to make it a 64 rather than higher.

Like the overwhelming majority of Morgans, it's obverse-limited but you can't consider that for the grade. In all cases but that of severe strike disparity, the grade is the lowest face. Not an "average." It's that simple.
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