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Fake 1804 Draped Bust Dollar On Ebay

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 Posted 08/10/2014  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
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 Posted 08/10/2014  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
I disagree. Check out the wiki page. One of the known specimens IS owned by Yogi Bear. Let's not downplay the importance of retired cartoon characters in numismatics. Recall that the 1913 V nickel was just recently purchased by Quickdraw McGraw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_silver_dollar
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 Posted 08/10/2014  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I have a fake 1804 silver dollar. (big deal)
A better fake than this one.
I found it in a dealers's junk box. It cost me five bucks, and I probably paid too much for it

Philosophically, it was the only way I was ever likely to obtain an 1804 silver dollar.

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Actually, mine one of only 15 known: Can you believe that ?
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 Posted 08/11/2014  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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I found it in a dealers's junk box


Completely irresponsible dealer. I wouldn't buy another thing from him. Just sayin'
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 Posted 08/11/2014  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mercutio34 to your friends list
I messaged him a few days ago to let him know it was fake. He clearly knows, but had a story about how he inherited the coins and they were authenticated by the local gold/silver buyer. Reported to ebay.
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 Posted 08/11/2014  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
1 hour to go, and ebay and the scammer are still going stong.
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 Posted 08/11/2014  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list
Reported both but with 1 hour to go, who knows if ebay will remove the item in time before the listing ends and the buyer ends up paying.
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 Posted 08/11/2014  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
If the deal goes through, the buyer will probably wet his pants.
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 Posted 08/11/2014  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
Listing has ended and it was bid up to the BIN price. Seller relisted the " Seated dollar". Argh, looks like I was a bit late finding it. Can it still be reported once the listing ends?
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 Posted 08/11/2014  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
I reported the " Seated dollar" too. I'm usually hesitant to prejudge such sellers. I didn't bother to write to this one as he weighed apparently genuine coins, showing pics thereof. He didn't post pics of the fakes on a scale. My guess is that he's trying to pass the fakes off as they were negligent purchases on his part .... "passing the buck" so to speak!
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 Posted 08/11/2014  09:44 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
I reported both yesterday afternoon but didn't do any good.
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 Posted 08/11/2014  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list
And to think that if I was a dishonest individual I could make a fortune. I have lots of these counterfeit coins. The only difference between me and these buyers, though, is that I bought the fakes in order to "know" the enemy.
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 Posted 08/11/2014  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Can it still be reported once the listing ends?

Sure, but since ebay no longer has a special group to report to they pretty much ignore reports now. It is very difficult to get an auction pulled anymore. Even with multiple reports of blatant fakes.
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 Posted 08/11/2014  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I have a working reference collection of about 200 fake coins.

Most of them are fake ancient coins; they have certainly helped me to avoid grief when considering the purchase of proportedly GENUINE coins (especially ancients).

I maintain such collection to further my educatuion in learning how to identify them.

I also maintain a reasonable specialist reference library on the subject of fake coins: their manufacture, their source, the testing of them, and their identification.

ANY coin dealer worth his salt should be doing the same thing, to protect his own reputation, and to provide good professional service to his customers.
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 Posted 08/12/2014  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
While not a dealer, I've gradually acquired well over a hundred counterfeits, myself. I periodically show them to fellow collectors. While some shun such them, I agree that they're useful for study. Some, like the added mintmark on a 1916 dime, evidence the lengths that fakers will take to make a quick buck. A dealer sold this one to me as a learning tool.
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