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 Posted 09/27/2014  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
My vote goes to the IH set. Good luck with what ever you choose.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
I wasn't being hard on her, in fact when I mentioned it to her I even told her that I wasn't going to be getting it unless I get rid of one of my 4 coin proof AGE sets that I'm never going to be completing anyway.

Besides isn't the 1894S dime a real good example of mint cronyism helping out big bankers. We don't even know if the very few examples are even out there since they've never surfaced. The whole thing is really an abuse of power within the government structure. But moving on, I will be acting like a politician and will continue to study the situation for awhile.

I like the IH's a lot because you can still find them in circulation once in awhile. The other coins aren't to shabby by any account. Since I already have a few dimes I just might work them in a twosome project. The whole situation is going to take a lot more studying.

I think a trip to the LCS is in order to do more research. But all in all I just may start the sets and have no realistic chance of completing them at all.

Decisions, decisions, decisions.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
I would do large cents from 1816-1857. There are no key dates (unless you get into varieties) and they are an interesting relic from our nation's past. Depending on the grade, each one will cost you on average $10-30 for an attractive specimen, or around $5-10 each for filler, low grade coins.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Do the Barber dime albums even have a hole for the 1894-S ?
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 Posted 09/27/2014  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index...ysis-1894-s/

A comprehensive overview of this "issue" is written here.

I have completed both the nickels and dimes. It only took about 30 years and I am still tweaking the dimes.
And I had two generations of collectors upon which to build.
Both VF or better.
I was never drawn to the cents as the other members are. All three sets can be completed in low grades.
The difficulty arises when Fine to Extra Fine grades are sought. In a nutshell, these coins do not exist
outside of collections of old-time collectors.
For example: 1912-S Nickel
Four examples for sale on the David Lawrence site. Three are good or good-6 and one is mint state. Nothing in between.
The same on ebay and the same at coin shows.

Have you considered collecting by type? Or a year set? To buy an album with the goal off filling all
of the 'holes' is very frustrating.

The Grey Sheet lists the following Bid/Ask prices for the three sets.

Indians (no varieties) $1,800/$1,975
Nickels $975/$1,075
Dimes $1,100/$1,200

Good to Very Good condition. Such sets would and could be put together easily but not really be more than
'any old' examples which technically fit the grade. Eye appeal would be ignored. Such sets occasionally appear on ebay.

I vote the dimes.



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 Posted 09/27/2014  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
52Raymo, the old folders had a cardboard insert in the hole stating 'RARE' and the Dansco Album
thankfully ignores it.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Interestingly, the early large cent collection, 1816-57, could be as affordable as these later sets. In time, if expenses permit, an example of previous types could be added, as well as a colonial copper or two! The 1857 will cost the most, maybe a hundred or so for a decent, well-circulated grade. An 1823 in like condition will cost perhaps $75 or so. Maybe, you'd want to spce things up with an 1817 15 star variety and an overdate? As opposed to the sets mentioned, comparatively fewer non-collectors have probably seen the large cents, so these will make a more interesting display item, methinks. Instead of getting an album, I'd consider using an old siverware chest, reworking it to house a date run, with a lift-out tray. Given that the coppers would be lower grade specimens, I'd not put them in flips but instead let them rest atop a felt-clad tray for onlookers to fondle.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I've got well over 100 Albums. Been at it for over 60 years. I go to from 2 to 4 coin shows a Month. Based on this I would say if your just going to start a collection of any kind, you'll be spending a lot of money on coins like Indian Head cents. Barber dimes are a bit easier to acquire and should not put you back to much monitarily. Those Liberty Head Nickels are the easiest ones for you to make up a full set and even in all MS grades. The 1913 one is a bit more difficult to find though.
If you really want to make up a complete set of anything, Just get any Album for Jefferson nickels. If you have a decent bank in your area that will sell you bulk coins, you could almost complete that set from every day change and bank rolls.
However, based on you already having a lot of IHC's, you may have a decent start there already.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
I never gave the large cents a thought or look before. I've always thought that they would be pricey because of their age.

So now let's see. My choices are:

1. IHC
2. Barber dimes
3. Liberty nickels
4. Large Cents
5. Bust dimes

However the bust dimes may be loosing their appeal because of the 15 or so coins that are worth more than $400 or so is g4 condition.

So Monday I'm taking a trip down to the lcs an make a decision. However, I think I may be leaning in the direction of the top four list above and filling in on a best coin basis at the time of purchase.

I was very surprised to see that the graysheet prices the IHC set as the priciest followed by the dimes and nickels. Don't know where the large cent collection comes in at. However, by the whole coin set at one time may not be in the cards for me. The thrill is in the chase rather that in swift swooping up of a whole set.

After all the fun in my other hobbies is to have multiple projects in the works at any one time so why not in coin collecting.

Carl the idea of having 100 albums is very intriguing to me. My problem would have to be the ability to securely store the sets at any time as I am not a particularly trusting individuals who has multiple giant dogs in the house that do however provide a relatively large intimidation factor. However I just have to ask, you're not saying that you have 100 completed albums are you. Just the thought of that boggles my mind as to how to keep track of the coins you need for any particular album.

I have 25 albums and they are not all completed and my need list extends 3 or 4 pages depending upon my own needs.

More power to you as I am impressed.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Let's not forget the prospect of forming a U.S. Type Set. You could get off to a flying start with the 20th century issues! You could then move on to the major types, like one large cent, one Shield nickel, etc.; afterwards, adding the varieties. The Dansco 7070 album seems to be the most popular set to work on.
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 Posted 09/27/2014  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
I am working on a type set and have a fairly decent 20th Century set of coins and have been working on the 19th century with a smattering of 18th century coins. This is a work in progress.

I've even put together a collection of halves and dollars as a small portable type set. Working on a similar portable set for cents, nickels, dimes, and quarters. Last time I was up in Illinois the nephews and nieces were amazed at the coins they didn't know existed. Their parents were too. Trying to pass a torch so to speak.

As I said some things take time to accomplish.
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 Posted 09/28/2014  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Carl the idea of having 100 albums is very intriguing to me. However I just have to ask, you're not saying that you have 100 completed albums are you. Just the thought of that boggles my mind as to how to keep track of the coins you need for any particular album.

Most are full. Some may well never get filled. Large Cents and Sitting Liberty Dimes are some of my horrors in attempting to fill an Album. With Large Cents there are a zillion types and varieties. Slight exageration but there are way to many of those to ever really acquire all. At a coin show not long ago a dealer had a display of almost all of them and they were in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many of my other sets are completed though. For example 12 completed sets of Mercury dimes, 10 Albums of Lincoln Cents and similar with most other coins. Just started a 7th set of Indian cents. Just to many Albums and no enough safe deposit boxes anymore.
If you go with Large Cents, you may well be sorry. Really not easy collection.
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 Posted 09/28/2014  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
Carl:
{quote]Some may well never get filled. Large Cents and Sitting Liberty Dimes are some of my horrors in attempting to fill an Album. With Large Cents there are a zillion types and varieties. Slight exageration but there are way to many of those to ever really acquire all.[/quote]

I find it interesting to see what you write about the large cents. From what I have heard about them it is quite possible to complete an album of these coins unless a person goes in for the variations. If some of these variations range in the hundreds or tens of thousands of dollars then like you I will probably be passing on them, and I know how much I would want to have those coins they are way out of my range and I would have to settle for what is attainable with the hope of upgrading at a later time.

You certainly like the Mercury dimes and Lincoln cents and you have done what I am sort of doing with some of my coins like the current ATB Quarters. I have two sets of proofs and two sets of circulated coins that I'm working on. However with the scarcity of ATB's in circulation where I live these albums are going to take awhile to fill. Current issue quarters are what I enjoy (especially what is found in circulation).

Right now I'm leaning towards the idea of just obtaining some Whiteman folders for the IHC, Liberty nickels, and large cents (however I don't think that I'll be in for the variations). At the same time with the understanding that I'll be upgrading to better albums when I gat further along in the series.

Like I may have said before multiple projects are what I do in my other hobbies so why not here.
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 Posted 09/29/2014  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
ghost, all of those are going to end up costing more than gold Kennedy in the long run.

That aside, what everyone is glossing over is that aside from the big 3 on the IHP 77, 08S (cause that one aint cheap) and 09s, just about every one prior to 77 is gonna run you 30 or more just for a decent good. Half of those more like 50. The front half of the collection adds up right quick.

The dimes will nickel and dime you to death as well. (had to do it) You will be paying a decent amount for nice coins in good and when you hit keys.... yow.

The nickel, aside from 1913, can be had in higher grades for less money. Certainly the set to do if you are looking at price alone.
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 Posted 09/29/2014  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Please stay away from Folders. They are OK for kids and poor condition coins but to many problems with them for anything decent.
If you look into it, Whitman makes an Album for Large Cents that is only a date set. By this it means only one coin from each year, no variations so much more possible. For example 1794 has at least 6 different types but only one is needed in that Album.
I hate to start a second Album until the previous one is full. That is why out of all my Albums, I only have one Large Cent and one Sitting Liberty Dime Album. One nice thing about IHC's is it is rather easy to fill an Album. Sure wish they wouldn't put the Flying Eagle cents in the same Album.
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