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Major 1984-P Jefferson Die Clash

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 Posted 12/08/2014  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Sweet find! Did you look it up at Maddieclash?
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 Posted 12/08/2014  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unholyroller to your friends list
As some of you know, I am trying to collect as extensive a collection of nickels errors from circulation as I can as a goal. Are clashed dies like this considered an error, die state or something else?
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 Posted 12/08/2014  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here is an overlay:
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 Posted 12/08/2014  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Error. As you know a planchet wasn't where it was needed allowing the dies to clash. Coins struck subsequently bear witness to the minting error. I'd say add these to your list. I'm appreciating these errors more for nickels and cents. Fun to hunt for and sweet to find. But I'll take in any denomination.
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 Posted 12/08/2014  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list

Quote:
Are clashed dies like this considered an error, die state or something else?


While I was looking for a reference, Rackster answered your question.

But here's a handy link anyway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint-m...rs#Die_clash Scroll down a bit to get to clashes.
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 Posted 12/08/2014  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agrippa to your friends list
Thanks Rackster! No haven't had a chance to look it up yet, but intend to ASAP. :)
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 Posted 12/08/2014  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjun to your friends list
Nice find
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 Posted 12/08/2014  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Agrippa - I took a look for you: http://www.maddieclashes.com/adc-5c-1984-01/

Think we have a match?
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 Posted 12/08/2014  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agrippa to your friends list
Thanks for the overlay Coop!

Thanks Junjun!

Rackster, where did you find the 1984 on the website? It looks like you are looking under the "Atypical" link, but I don't see 1984. I only see 1983 and then it skips to 1988. The one you linked is close, but mine shows the "M" to the left of Jefferson's head.
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 Posted 12/08/2014  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
I think yours is a little stronger and slightly rotated. I'm thinking it's different and probably worth BJ's attention. Send CoC some pic's and see where it takes you (attribution I think).

OK - now my secret but promise not to tell. I use the Search tool.

The scrolling dropdown is sometimes a pain to navigate with the touchpad so I usually do a search and take a look at the hits. Works fairly well...and it save me from frustration.
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 Posted 12/09/2014  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agrippa to your friends list
Well, shoot! The "Search Tool"......i hope the NSA doesn't find out you're telling secrets here! LOL I guess I was searching too specifically. I typed in 1984 and found it thanks!

While I'm sounding like an idiot..... Who is BJ and what is CoC?

Thanks for all of the help and guidance! :)
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 Posted 12/09/2014  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Congrats,

Very nice find!
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 Posted 12/09/2014  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Robert Kneff goes by BJ and he has several sites we frequent Trail dies, Cuds on coins, Wavysteps, Counter clashes and ETC.

COC is http://cuds-on-coins.com/
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 Posted 12/09/2014  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Agrippa - BJ Neff, one of the principal organizers of the site. He works alongside Mike Diamond and others to support a series of sites dedicated to our numismatic interests. Cuds on Coins, Traildies, and MAD Die Clashes are a few I frequent. You'll see Contact and Submission links on all of their sites - you can post a message to the team there and they should get back to you. Personally speaking and by observation here, it appears that BJ does the majority of monitoring the Contact messages. Normally a quick response.

I have noticed a few identified coins that are near duplicates, and as I recall, the difference of a few degrees of rotation and design transfer details. I think yours will merit a similar write-up. I also think we are very lucky to have sites like these to refer to...and to add to. These sites help to characterize our coin collecting interest and help to expand it. I also believe that it will positively impact the value of coins like yours. I think it increases how desirable a specimen can be thus boosting an asking price.

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 Posted 12/10/2014  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agrippa to your friends list
Perfect! Thanks guys for all of the information. I have a couple of weeks off coming up. I hope to do some coin catching up then. I'll add getting some good pictures of this coin to my "to do" list and see what they say! Your help is much appreciated!
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