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Is This Doubling Or Not?

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 Posted 12/16/2014  03:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marcools to your friends list


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 Posted 12/16/2014  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Could be RPD.

Can't be a RPD, they haven't punched dates into the dies since about 1907. And if they don't punch them in they can't re-punch them.
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What could it be
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 Posted 12/16/2014  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Looks like a worn die, aka Die Deterioration.
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 Posted 12/16/2014  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list
Well, Conder101, there are lots of post 1907 varieties termed RPD by the collecting community, so whether you want to call it that on technicalities or not, that's how many people call it. Oh - are you on a crusade to fix the collecting world? That's cool - what should we call it then? I'll go with you if it makes sense! : )

That's a MUCH better picture Marcools! From that angle it definitely looks like a form of doubling.
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The 2nd picture is great. Can see some kind of shadow effect on the 19 & D (I assume the 2 does as well?). Interesting specimen! coop is the local error/variety guru & will most likely be along in a bit.


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It is not doubling. It is Die Deterioration. You can tell where the die shifted to the left. Coop has a great demonstration of this.
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DDD - common to this issue.
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There is also split plating on the SE corner of the mint mark. And everyone else nailed the area by the date as Die Deterioration.
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After many coins being judged by coop as Die Deterioration I now know that's what this is. Thanks coop!
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Images help us to see and retain information for a longer time.
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Is it worth keeping or worth anything?
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No premium for Die Deterioration Doubling. But if you like it, keep it as an educational piece.
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Not really. Did you ck for the Close AM variety?
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Well, Conder101, there are lots of post 1907 varieties termed RPD by the collecting community, so whether you want to call it that on technicalities or not, that's how many people call it.

In US coins there are overdates from doubled dies, and there are repunched mintmarks, but with the possible exception of some Indian Head cents or V nickels there are no RPD after the 1907 - 09 period. (it was during this period when they were switching from punched dates to dates on the master hub.) If someone describes a later piece as being a RPD they are either being lazy or sloppy, or they don't know what they are talking about and their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt or at least viewed with skepticism.

The reason I try to be a stickler for using the correct terms is there are always people trying to learn and telling them the wrong terms just leads to confusion and the newbie later has to relearn what he was incorrectly told before. For those who answer questions and are teaching, using the wrong terms does the student a disservice.
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