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AU64. MS58. I don't think...no, it has. No, it hasn't.  |
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The flatness of Liberty's hair above her ear is worrisome. The gouge across the eagle's breast is just enough to be distracting. Don't know if it'd come back as AU58 or MS63, but I do know this is one of the most common issues in the series for which gem brilliant uncirculated specimens are very plentiful. Don't submit it, but instead upgrade when you get the inevitable opportunity.
Colligo ergo sum
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Uh oh... I think u broke SsuperDdave!
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Slight hair compression. as much as I'd love to say MS64 I think it will probably be a AU58. It is a beautiful coin though. I hope they call that compression weakness in the strike and give you a good grade. If it was an O it would definitely be strike weakness.
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Actually taking a closer look by zooming the image on the PC I think it is less likely to get the MS64 grade now. Compression more widely spread that I fisrt though.
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Someone may have breathed on it a bit too heavily at the mint but other than that I'm going to say MS-64
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Everything I see on this coin which might be interpreted as "wear" is completely consistent with classic Morgan strike weakness. The coin is darn near prototypical. On the obverse, the flatness above the ear is slightly matched as it should be by flatness in the lobe itself. Take a line from that ear to the first right star, and you see a little weakness in the hair along that axis. The cotton bolls are starting to become involved, but to the limited degree appropriate. Then you look at all the hair in front of the ear and see no wear whatsoever. On a well-struck coin, by the time wear starts showing on the lower hair, the upper hair will be involved too. Draw another line on the reverse. This line goes through the eagle's tilted center of mass, splitting the tailfeathers and clipping the D in DOLLAR. Along that line is where strike weakness shows. The breast has lines but not much detail. The legs are flattening, the (viewer's) left talons are flat and the right ones flattening. Most telling is lower on that axis - the two largest leaves in thr wreath. The left one is closer to the axis and very weak. The right one is farther and stronger. Generally, they wear at equal rates. Heck, a slightly bigger difference between those two is a neat smoking-gun attributor for a weak strike. You don't even have to look at the rest of the coin. Not a smidge of these longwinded details convinces me that this coin has wear. It doesn't. But the peculiar mark on the neck and the discoloration at UNUM and on the reverse are things that only happen if the coin gets a bit of street time. Back to the brick wall. |
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I feel like I should apologize....
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the explanation by SsuperDdave is well, just super, but I wonder how many TPG graders take the time to check these diagnostics in the 30 seconds they would spend looking at it or just AU it in a flash? |
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Fields seem free of friction which is what I first check when looking for circulation evidence. So, I would call it MS, either 63 or 64, limited by contact marks. The strike weakness shouldn't affect the grade below the MS-65 level.
Decent MS example of this common date Morgan. As mentioned, it will be easy to upgrade and examples with both superior surfaces and stronger strike are plentiful.
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this is why I don't spend money on Morgans.... it's a entire field into itself.
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A mint worker may have sneezed on the Unum :)
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