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 Posted 03/24/2015  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list
We here in Canada have had a Queen on our money for over fifty years and yet we still have people complain inequality. I prefer animals or industry or anything prosperous that denotes the nation. The change every so often is good. I've even managed a few Sac dollars here in the north.
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United States
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 Posted 03/28/2015  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CENTertainment to your friends list
Don't you think they'd just end the cent before making the big change to take Lincoln off?
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 Posted 05/13/2015  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
Here's what they voted on.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ocid=u218dhp

What do You think?

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 Posted 05/13/2015  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
Andrew Jackson may have been America's last great President.

His successful war with the banksters greatly outweighs any trail of tears issues.


But definitely remove Jackson from the $20 Federal Deserve Note. It is a disgrace to the great man to put him on paper currency with out the proper specie backing.


Again I close this with a quote from Andrew Jackson.


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Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!



I also note the mention above about Susan B. Anthony looking like the Wicked Witch of the West from the Wizard of Oz.

Interesting coin collecting tie in with that movie.

It is actually about banking and gold and silver.

The yellow brick road is gold.

The Emerald City is the greenback.

The Wizard is the money printer, Janet Yellen would be the modern day equivalent.

The ruby slippers were actually silver slippers and changed to ruby for the film.

The Wicked Witch of the East is JP Morgan.

The Wicked Witch of the West is John Rockefeller.

Here is a wiki link on it for those interested in learning more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...Wizard_of_Oz
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05/13/2015 08:57 am
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 Posted 05/13/2015  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
Best joke on the subject is from Ellen Degeneres.

I don't recall her exact words but....

"I heard that no living person can be depicted on the bills. I want it, but not that bad."
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05/13/2015 8:09 pm
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 Posted 05/13/2015  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan78 to your friends list
Funny, majority of readers comments in different stories I have read are dead set AGAINST changing the $20 bill... One reader even said that he will demand ones, fives or tens before he would take a $20 bill... I honestly think there will be a huge backlash if they change it and I do think you might see a big run on lower denominations...
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 Posted 05/14/2015  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fox to your friends list
@Bryan78,

So he never said he would demand twos? A pity.
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05/14/2015 08:17 am
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 Posted 05/14/2015  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan78 to your friends list

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@Bryan78,

So he never said he would demand twos? A pity.


Yeah that's what he said... But hey, if doing this makes the $ 2 more popular, then it won't be all bad even though personally I do not want to see the Jackson removed form the $20
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 Posted 05/14/2015  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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One reader even said that he will demand ones, fives or tens before he would take a $20 bill.
I bet he would take the twenty if it was given to him for nothing. Idiot.
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 Posted 05/14/2015  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
I read an article about the poll to change the $20. The author was against the change based upon two things:

1. it points out that most of the respondents were young people who the author points out are into the cashless movement. (credit or debit carts) and really don't use cash the way the older folks do (author words)

2: The choice of the background of the women being voted on. Has to do about the message of options being women of activism and not being a successful women in the world of business or power brokers.

I would like to have seen women of success like Clair Booth Luce. The type of women who has wielded power of will and position and not of coerision. I think offering women who had power of will and position would have been better examples for women.
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 Posted 05/14/2015  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
A major problem with deciding who should be on coins nowadays is that the real history of the US has been hijacked for long enough that its getting to the point people making important decisions have no concept what the history really was. When you learn history from the writings of people who were there, you find he people who made our history were no more stupid than we are. In fact they had a better fundamental education behind them than most people nowadays - but their tech toys were not as advanced since it takes time, knowledge accumulation, and hardship to develop technology.

Having said this, I think it is very important that anyone chosen for coins and bills is a true patriot. By this I mean they are those who stick to the same mindset that was ACTUALLY prevalent in the system that brought us the very freedoms we have to express ourselves on this forum.

This means famous people and politicians who would support things like making a website where you are to report someone bad mouthing their politics has no concept of the Bill of Rights. These people certainly have no understanding of what freedom and Americanism is about. It is a slap in the face to the foundations of our freedoms to consider people of this ilk to be on US money - which is deemed an honor. We live in a day when a former person who held the office of president got away with saying (in context) we need to get rid of the Bill of Rights - a break of the oath of office to uphold the Constitution... yet no one did anything about it.

We need to be careful who we would think belongs on coins. We need to make sure their standards are the same that gave us the freedoms and rights we currently enjoy. Unfortunately, a lot of current "heroes" touted nowadays are far from these ideals... but people won't take the time to study and find the facts. Sadly, many are actually taught to ridicule opposing views instead of look into them.

Lady Liberty was great on our coins. She stood for the ideals of that made our nation so capable of helping so much more of the world to their own freedoms and to better lives for themselves. It will be a sad day indeed if they ever decide to put people on our coins who are/were like many current politicians of the day.

I also seem to notice the effigies were not "Mr.," but always "LADY" Liberty. This was, and is, an honor - we have had a most important woman on our coins for a long time...and I am proud of that.



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 Posted 05/14/2015  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list
If you want to put a woman on US paper currency, she should be someone of importance in the history of our system of money & banking, because that has been a theme of our Federal currency since its beginnings.
My suggestion is Nellie Tayloe Ross, who was the first female governor of any State, and as the first female Director of the US Mint, under FDR, became the custodian of the entire US gold supply.
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 Posted 05/14/2015  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
C'mon, Bella Abzug.
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 Posted 05/15/2015  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list

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under FDR, became the custodian of the entire US gold supply.

NO. Absolutely, NO. FDR was the worst president we had, prolonged the Great Depression, and is the root cause the world's financial crises of today.

Let's just get rid of all our presidents from currency. The presidency is an are illegal office anyway. Think about the legalities: Article 2, Section one, states that someone can be president if they 'have been a 14 years resident within the United States' and they gained 'residency' of the United States which occurred when the country was "created" in Congress on July 4, 1776, meaning that the President couldn't legally exist until after July 4, 1790 (14 years later, and after the Constitution became law in 1787), however...Washington was inaugurated on April 30, 1789.

Lets face it, he wasn't a true "Constitutional" President, and none following him have been either as they are succeeding him in his illegal office.

Thus, in summation: let's get the presidents off of currency and replace them with a neutral female, Lady Liberty.


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One reader even said that he will demand ones, fives or tens before he would take a $20 bill.

This is my thought exactly. And if it changes to anything other than Lady Liberty, if I was ever given a new $20, I'd "accidentally" rip a small corner off of it. (And by small corner, I mean about 30% of the note and "loose" the torn piece so that it will have to be shredded)

Unless...

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We here in Canada have had a Queen on our money for over fifty years and yet we still have people complain inequality.

Can we do this, PLEASE!!?!! I'd much rather have a female on currency who actually IS someone of importance. Don't mind me, I'm going to leave now and begin writing my Congressmen to introduce legislation for a "Declaration of Dependence" to beg Britain to take us back. You guys don't have any clue how badly I'd love the Queen on our currency too!
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 Posted 05/15/2015  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
I don't think that we will ever be happy with any choice of whom or what we put on our currency. If Canadians (whom have had a woman on their currency are still bitterly (?) arguing over the subject then what chance do Americans have of agreeing on a suitable subject.

Personally I'd much rather have substance over subject. I don't believe in any argument of the time has come so let's put someone new on the $20 just for equality's purpose. I'd much rather see the figure of an allegorical lady liberty than someone who was not of substances.

I do feel that both our coins and currency do need a complete refacing but in a fashion that is representative of whom or what we are.

I much rather see the north end of a buffalo one side of a coin or bill and the south end of the buffalo on the reverse than someone who was not of substance.
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