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Hong Kong 1866 Silver Dollar

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 Posted 04/05/2015  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list
A scarce and beautiful coin!
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 Posted 04/05/2015  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list
Lovely. I aspire to one of those one day....


In the meantime, I have an object which claims to be an 1866 Hong Kong dollar on the reverse, but the obverse has Edward VII !!? It only cost me £5 and I wanted it just for laughs.
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 Posted 04/05/2015  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
The chopmark is a shame otherwise the coin is in outstanding condition. It's rather scarce and it's a coin that I have been hunting for a while without breaking the bank.
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 Posted 04/05/2015  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add worldnumis to your friends list
Thanks for all your comments and opinions. I don't see these offered any more.
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 Posted 04/05/2015  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
When I worked at ebay we used to seen imitations of the Hong Kong dollar on a routine basis. The most common numismatic forgeries were 1867 but 1866 and 1868 are known to have been made as a Class 3 forgeries as well. Contemporary counterfeit varieties are actually quite collectible and tend to sell very well.

Initially I was concerned because of the dead look that the coin has. It may simply be harshly cleaned but it made me look further.

Krause indicates there were about 2,000,000 copies of the coin issued during the 3 years of production. They are of about equal rarity so the mintage means that 20 die pairs are possible.

I suspect that these coins were hubbed since the mint was established by England and they exported hubbing machinery. A hubbed coin should have no serious differences in design. I found one possible area of concern - the tip of the ribbon. It appears not to be there - not worn off - not lapped off - just missing.

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 Posted 04/06/2015  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add worldnumis to your friends list
Swamperbob, I checked tha area with a 10X glass and it appears the ribbon end is there, however very faint. There is also a wear spot in that area. I tried to get a good scan of the area, but but to no avail.
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 Posted 04/06/2015  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
As long as it is there there is no problem.
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 Posted 04/06/2015  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add worldnumis to your friends list
Thanks again Bob. Have you checked out my BOE 1804 Dollar on the British site?
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 Posted 04/06/2015  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
No but I will check shortly. I have loved those since I bought my first example in 1970 for $20. It was a genuine example. I bought my first counterfeit a few years later.
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 Posted 04/21/2016  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gazt2011 to your friends list
Hi all, I recently acquired a Hong Kong 1866 Dollar not sure whether it is counterfeit. It is made of silver, but I have my doubts. Can anyone assist? Many thanks
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 Posted 06/14/2016  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serilabuk to your friends list
I'm new to this forum. Opinions from fellow members much appreciated on authenticity of this coin which I acquired several months ago. Coin is 39mm and weighs 26.86g. Thank you for taking time in helping.

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 Posted 06/14/2016  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark240590 to your friends list
Very nice. I just watched one sell on ebay for over £400. I would never spend that much on ebay unless I knew the seller was a genuine source. Which was the case when I bought my Gold Coast 1 Ackey.

I need one of these though. Maybe at the next auction ;)
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 Posted 06/14/2016  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serilabuk to your friends list
Thank you for the comment, Mark!
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 Posted 06/15/2016  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list
Very nice to me. Genuine piece!
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 Posted 06/15/2016  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
I do have some reservations regarding this coin for two reasons.

First is that the die face seems to be too small - which often happens when a die is made by casting an image from a genuine coin. If you compare the margins at the top and bottom of the obverse die to the same area on the genuine coin it appears larger. That combines with the odd looking collar seam at the top to make me suspicious of a forgery.

Second the fine detail of the Queen's crown compared to the hairline detail which is missing also makes me wonder about an image transfer process.

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