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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just because the Chinese produce counterfeit Morgans, that would in no way stop me from collecting them. Coin collecting can be seen like climbing a mountain. Wheather your experienced or not, you don't just throw on your boots and start climbing. You need to be prepared for the journey the best you can. The same with coin collecting; you need to have the basic essentials or you'll never make it: 1. Literature 2. Scale 3. Caliper 4. A knowledgeable forum of people like CCF 5. More literature! Later on, your "essentials" will expand into learning how to grade, for example. Never let counterfeits stop you from collecting what you want. You have a whole family of folks here more than willing to help you!  |
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Pillar of the Community
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That's why CCF is here, to teach people to swim. I've decided that that is the best quote ever said here, or anywhere for that matter. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1750 Posts |
Collect bust halves by Overton die marriage, that will pretty much rule out getting a fake into your collection.
Buying PCGS or NGC slabbed coins also helps greatly.
Edited by DoubleEagle20
04/08/2015 6:49 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
I agree... ccf is the closest thing to having access to a hive mind aside from the Borg
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Moderator
 United States
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Fully concur that the CCF experts and family contribution are the absolute best weapon to support anyone against the scourge of counterfeits.
Education is the Mission ... support is the tactical response we provide to each other.
David
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New Member
United Kingdom
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*** Edited by Staff - Please review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. ***
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Pillar of the Community
United States
604 Posts |
Thanks mods. |
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New Member
United States
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That's insanely harsh to say, that just because somebody isn't as well educated and don't have the amount of years put in, but still want to collect, that if they do end up buying a fake, they deserve it? Some of the moderators here don't really impress me by what they have to say.
I started collecting when I was around 25 and would walk in to these coin shops where there were some 50 year guy who acted like an butt when I would ask a question trying to learn. This is a HOBBY, I don't get this stuck up attitude that some people have towards new people who come along. I'm about 8 years in and I still don't claim to know everything, and if a fake is good enough, I'm sure I'd fall for it.
I'm shaking my head that other people agree with that and cheering you on. Wow. Maybe I'm reading what you meant wrong, I hope I am. I was on another web forum a few years ago relating to PM's and had to stop because of the personalities there. Help everyone, and hope they score a good deal.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's insanely harsh to say, that just because somebody isn't as well educated and don't have the amount of years put in, but still want to collect, that if they do end up buying a fake, they deserve it? We're just one big family here. Some are young, old, new, and the ones older than dirt (  ). We really do look out for one another, and sometimes agree to disagree, just like a family. Some of us are considered "experts" in our field. And we love to share our knowledge with others. However, I don't recall anyone saying "they deserve it" when they accidentally purchase a fake. If anything, we feel bad for them. Edited by Nickel Guy
04/09/2015 03:58 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
NOW is the time that you must learn how to detect fake coins for yourself. There are many publications on line and in books on the detection of fake coins, by visual inspection and simple testing. There a number different approaches the scientific detection of fake coins as well.
I collect ancient coins, and I have considered it encumbent on myself that I learn all that I can about fake ancient coins.
Do yourself a favour and buy fake coins provided that they are knowingly sold as such, at an appropriate price. It is from such a collection that you will learn 'in hand' how to detect them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1211 Posts |
This is the saddest thing I have read in a long time.
Rise above! Take some time to educate yourself. Learn how to identify fakes vs genuine pieces.
If you "quit" over this, then you have no one to blame but yourself...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have a simple question for the OP, why were you buying coins from strangers not knowing how to detect fakes?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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... why were you buying coins from strangers not knowing how to detect fakes? IMHO, the vast majority of coin collectors can be fooled by a fake at some time or another. I don't think it's fair to blame a victim, even if they could have exercised more caution or were too quick to seize a perceived bargain, as may be the case here. On the flip-side, I'd not blame the hobby at large because I got taken. I once overheard one coin dealer tell another, "If I don't buy a bad coin now and then, I'm not doing enough business." He had recently bought a fake $10 gold piece for $2,800! Before buying it, he'd shown it to other knowledgeable dealers at the show! Quote:You need to start collecting Morgans by the VAM and you'll never purchase a fake. I had to chuckle when I read this. It got me thinking about the PCGS micro-O Morgan dollar fiasco. Check this out: http://www.pcgs.com/News/Pcgs-Annou...896-o-1900-o |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:heres a good lesson for newcomers item 371288742746. This seller has been notified about the error listing but he's leaving it up because. an 1875 s quarter in f12 is retail $75.00. Now the NGC label says quarter and its a 20 cent piece which in f12 is retail $150.00. He hopes someone says oh heres a mistake the seller thinks its a quarter but its a third party grader error. its really a 20 cent piece let me grab it. meanwhile you are paying full retail for the 20 cent piece. perfectly legal but I for one never look at any of his coins because of this one listing. He correctly points out that it's a slabbing error. Oddly though, he does have information about the quarter and 20 cent piece in his description. I wouldn't say that he's trying to pull something over on someone though. There's nothing wrong with asking full retail in my opinion. I just don't buy at full retail. Personally, if I had a slab with an incorrect label I would send it back. Don't have any idea if they will, but I'm thinking NGC might even pay for the shipping both ways. I would think that they don't want this in circulation as an example of their quality. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1450 Posts |
What I say if is sounds too good to be true then it probably is too good to be true. My experience is that you get what you pay for in coins and in life.
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