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Pillar of the Community
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Fake for sure I am afraid. Cast copies of colonial coins have been popular for many years so there are a lot of the earlier ones made before they had to be marked as copies.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I can see the seams on the cent on the scale from here 
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Pillar of the Community
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The mass. 1788 cent is a highly counterfeited coin. I personally own one myself.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ya, I just wanted to confirm my suspensions. Thanks guys
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by ArrowsAndRays 04/22/2015 10:41 pm
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Both replicas. Many of both of these can be found on ebay as the real deal. I have reported hundreds.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:Many of both of these can be found on ebay as the real deal. I have reported hundreds. Kudos, VT .... Reported dozens, myself. Most of these, if not all, date back to the 1960's. They were sometimes sold in sets or groupings of different sizes. I have a few that are still in their original, plastic holders. The word COPY was typically absent back then. Ironically, the casting gives these copies a more aged appearance.
Edited by ExoGuy 04/23/2015 08:57 am
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Quote:Just like Trade dollars, start with NO and be proven wrong. It's a ton easier on your heart. Good advice. 
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Pillar of the Community
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HMMM ... the WM New Hampshire is of course a $15 coin ... they seem to bring that now ... saw one recently in a Stacks/Bowers sale ... seriously.
That Mass. electrotype ... I am thinking $75-up. Try it on E-Bay. Call it a 19thC electrotype ... quite scarce ... IMO.
JPL
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Pillar of the Community
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Say what  these things have that much value? And I can sell them on ebay sans repercussion So the mass is like a contemporary counterfit? And why would stacks be selling the wm?   
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Quote:And I can sell them on ebay sans repercussion Maybe. Technically against the rules but we have to hold them at gunpoint to enforce their rules as it is. John (if he speaks on these, you listen) was being derisive of Stacks, I think. But if the Mass is an early electrotype, it actually has a dedicated collector base.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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If I was you I would submit them both as a pair lot to Stacks Bowers for the next C4 Auction in November 2015. You may have to throw in some other coins to meet a minimum consignment level? I can see the lead interior and the old edge on this piece. Send the images to Vicken and tell him John Lorenzo referred this group to you for the next C4 auction. Who me derisive? LOL. I guess since that Newman NH piece sold ... these 20thC cast are OK to auction ... a good pedigree is EVERYTHING today ... LOL.
JPL
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Quote: a good pedigree is EVERYTHING today  There's a parallel in Morgan dollars - the Micro O counterfeits. They have a bespoke group of fans, and although acknowledged as contemporary fakes they're collectable. And you can find them in TPG slabs because they weren't unmasked until about 10 years ago.
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