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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would say No, and not FB.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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looking for the fat lower portion of the 4 doubled to the left and the remnants of the 1 at the top and lower parts of the outside of the 2 in the date. I just don't see it. might be something on bottom of 2 on left side but can't confirm. and your center bands are NOT split. otherwise nice mint state coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am not seeing from these pictures. Maybe you have a slight Die Deterioration around that area causing it to look like some doubling is going on. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5838 Posts |
I adjust the gamma and did a invert of your images, so that its clear.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1511 Posts |
Nice merc! Though unfortunately, I don't think it's the 42/41 at all.. But in hand I suppose it could be.... though your photos are decent enough to see .... where I'm not seeing it at all. And likewise, unfortunately, I don't think its got even a chance at making FB... But still a nice merc!
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CCF Sponsor
United States
702 Posts |
Looks MS to me, can't tell FSB but it surely could be. I don't see why it's not an overdate. Sharper / better lit photographs would help.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I know at least one member here who can cherrypick the overdate from images like these 9 times out of ten, and I haven't seen him present the tenth yet. I dont think it is the tenth either. Macmercury,  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3540 Posts |
Did this Mercury get walked through grading today yet?
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New Member
 United States
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The coin is out of my hands. It is with a Member to submit. May go express, I dont know, I'm not the one paying for it. You all will be the first to know when I know, trust me. If it turns out that I wasnt right after all. I'm a big boy, Ill be here to tell you and own that too. Right now I'm saying die markers are diemarkers, are DIE MARKERS. I'm not the only one submitting coins on this run, and if multiple coins are going, whats 1 more? Along for that ride is a 1943 Washington quarter DDO. Its posted here as well, getting high marks, its also really nice. Thanks everyone again for comments, advise, and humble opinions. Ill bring more around that will be sure to have us all arguing. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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We don't argue...we just have differences of opinions and healthy discussions (usually!).
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I get the vibes that there is some confusion between 'FSB' and 'FB'. Some of that confusion exists in my mind as well. I prefer the term 'FB' = Full Bands, where the tops of ALL of the bands, being fully separated for ALL of their length, and have a top to each of them, something like the top of a loaf of bread. 'FSB' simply means Fully Split Bands, with no reference to the tops of them. Perhaps these factors will be considered when it is graded by a TPG. If it is an overdate, I can see the necessity as to why it needs to be graded so accurately by a TPG and for a completely truthful opinion third party opinion. If I was the TPG'er, I would be very circumspect about authentic opinion on the overdate and the grade, because I could see the possibility that I may be legally challenged further down the track, if a dispute were to arise. I would need to be very sure that it is indeed an overdate. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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...confusion between 'FSB' and 'FB'. For the dime to qualify under the FB (Full Band) designation the 'center' bands (the highest peak of the reverse devices) must have both 'center' horizontal lines thoroughly separated with both being "elevated and convex (or arched), very similar in concept to a hypothetically filled-in great arch as seen in the city of St. Louis": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatew..._cropped.jpg Both of these 'center' lines must be thoroughly intact with no evidence of discontinuity anywhere. If both of these 'center' lines display a perpendicular ding/indentation, for instance, the FB portrayal would no long apply. The big bucks FB classification applies primarily to the 64/65 and above grades with lower mint state designations relevant to some of the lower mintage dates and varieties. Any non-MS FB specimens generally have a significantly lower premium. I personally like to envision the FSB (full split band), on the other hand, as if the aforementioned great arch had a horizontal pedestrian bridge built across it connecting both sides about half way up; in this scenario the humped section of the arch beginning at both bridge connecting points is missing very similar to a flattop haircut:  I hope I haven't now destroyed anyone's intimate memories of their vacation tour of the arch of St. Louis by inserting some guy's haircut.  I took 'some' of this information from CoinFacts and quotes from Bill Fivaz himself made back in 2011. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Guessing the coin wasn't an overdate since we haven't heard a peep from him in over 2 months.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4409 Posts |
It's been longer than 2 months, last visit was May of 2015. The photos provided on page 2 indicated to a few here that it wasn't the overdate.
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