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Ken, can you please explain why you think that and whats the difference?
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The coin is a nice uncirculated Red/Brown (or I suppose it could be high grade AU) and there are no signs of chased or otherwise moved metal on the coin that would suggest PMD. Also, the area in question is raised and rounded and terminates well below the length of the vertical of the T. If you import one of the images into Photoshop and enlarge and sharpen, you'll see a clear area of field between the aberration and the vertical of the T which you can see in the images here if you look hard enough (Image #7 is best). This is a die gouge that displaced some of the metal of the die toward the cavity of the T and thus a malformed T (as John1 also noted earlier). This can happen when a gouge or dent is deep and next to the cavity of a die. This most likely would have occurred prior to the die being hardened while the steel was quite malleable. Shown here is an example of a 1916-D "Embedded D" Buffalo nickle. Notice that the D has caused the C to be malformed. Coin submitted by Joe Beaupied of Mich at the Michigan State Numismatic Society Convention Fall 2013. Edited by koinpro
05/17/2015 3:39 pm
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lawest,
I was just "playing" off the term others were using. A poor choice in my part. Generically, it could be called impact damage or being more specific a "die gouge" or "die dent". The two are very closely related and often easily confused. I'd call it a "die gouge." BTW, is the upper vertical of the T also malformed? Can you shoot an image of one of the other Ts on the reverse for comparison?
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05/17/2015 3:35 pm
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When I said it looks like it took a hit, a meant the coin not the die took the hit. John1  |
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John1, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. |
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lawest,
Thanks for taking the extra shots. I can see that's the way it looks normally at the upper end. No big deal. I just wanted to be sure.
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Thanks to everyone for the feedback
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Thanks Ken for the explanation.
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gas bubble and the one on the right almost looks like a die crack but it is maybe a long gas bubble and might have a light weak clash die nothing big though sorry.
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Yep, these appear to be die gouges. I wonder if this is in the Master die? Seems it was too easy for you to find a second one. Also, I'm about 90% sure I shot one of these for somebody years ago but I can't find it in my files (no surprise -- my hard-copy files are a mess).
Did you check this coin for other markers?
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05/26/2015 12:17 pm
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In your earlier post you show this (I added the red arrows):  Your second coin: In this latest post the second coin shows the same line but more easily seen. Is this actually on both coins? Edited by koinpro
05/26/2015 12:34 pm
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I looked for markers but couldn't positively identify any. The line your arrows point to are on both coins.
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Ok, that line help prove this is a die variation.
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