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199? P Dime - Apparent Low Pressure Strike

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 Posted 05/20/2015  02:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add my76strat to your friends list
I ordered a Celestron Pro digital microscope earlier today. When it arrives, I'll post that clearer pic. Until then, I appreciate those who might see enough to comment further based on whatever can now be seen. Cheers.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
The rims look like they are there so I think it's a Grease Filled Die.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdiablo30 to your friends list
That looks like a Greaser,and a better one at that too
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 Posted 05/20/2015  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add my76strat to your friends list
I am curious, how likely is it that both sides of a coin would be Struck Through Grease? Of greasers I've seen, I've never seen both sides affected. It seems that if it is a Greaser on both sides, it would be a relatively rare occurrence. Am I wrong about that? Thanks again.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
Tough call.
It could be a test strike made during a press setup; trying to get the pressure and separation distance and the alignment of the dies correct.
OR
A Greaser.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Is the weight the same as a normal coin?

It looks like a Struck through error, but the rims are weak.

On a Struck Through Grease they can have both sides affected. (often)
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But note the rims on this example. They are strong and not weak.

So it would be nice to see the weight of your coin.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I am confident that this is a weak (low-pressure) strike. These errors are most common in dimes because the thin planchet requires a small minimum die clearance with very little room for error. It's the same reason why clash marks are most common in this denomination.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Thanks Mike. That was my suspicion.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Dang,wrong again
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 Posted 05/20/2015  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list
It appears to be a weak strike to me.

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 Posted 05/20/2015  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Doesn't the die touch the center of the planchet first?
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Thank you guys for that insight. I ought to know that including the coin's weight would be helpful information to include with such a query. I'll try remembering that in the future. And I'll hopefully be posting clearer pics by my next posting as well. Thanks for bearing with me through my learning curve. The coin weighs 2.31 grams. as an aside; speaking of weight; I once read of 1983 cents struck on the previous copper planchet, and weighing 3.09 grams. Is this a confirmed possibility or am I wasting time weighing 83s? Thanks again.
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<<Doesn't the die touch the center of the planchet first?>>

That is often, but not always the case. It depends on the degree of die convexity, which varies over the years. It also depends on the height of the planchet's proto-rim. If the proto-rim is tall, then the periphery of the die might make contact before, or at the same time, as the center of the die. I've seen weakly-struck State Quarters where the only design sits along the perimeter or where only the design rim appears. That's because the die face is almost completely flat in these recent issues.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Thanks Mike.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list
My76Strat,

The 1983-P&D are both known struck in pre-zinc planchets. Two were found by collectors buying my book, Strike It Rich With Pocket Change, within weeks of buying it.
My coauthor and I included the 1983 solid copper-alloy cent after Billy Crawford of SC found one by weighing every 1983 cent he found.

After including it, I decided that for the next edition we should add a note indicating that it was just as likely they be struck on 1983-D cents too.
As as a result both Mints are now known.

This the Jeff Young specimen of the 1983-D, the first reported for that Mint.
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Here is the Janet Hett specimen:
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Here is a look at my 1983-P Nickel struck in a pre-83 planchet:
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