1891 Liberty Seated Dime, Die Clash, Grade It Vs. NGC!

Whatever the grade may be, it looks like it was struck yesterday. Ms65,a nice coin for the collection.

Will post grade and slab when I get home tonight. I talked to the seller for awhile, and he is glad that the coin is going to a "good home." (He's very trusting, isn't he? Hah!) It is not attributed on the holder -- I wonder why not spend the extra $15 for the Variety Plus on a coin of this quality. It's not really in my budget to purchase anything else as nice this month, unfortunately, a shame since there are some other coins from the same private collection that are equally beautiful or even more so.

I'll probably add it to my small list of coins that need to get CAC approval at the ANA show next year.

BTW, I've never dipped a coin. However, my pre-teen self is guilty of using Wright's Copper Polish on a substantial number of Wheat cents including most of the early teens S and D mint coins, several Indian Head cents, and an 1848 Braided Hair Large Cent. Also used Wright's Silver Cream on a few circulated Morgans and Walkers that my dad owned. Still beating myself up over those 20+ years later. That's way worse than a dip. They look like someone rubbed them with sandpaper and the copper and silver both retoned to hideous shades of ugly that scream "cleaned coin." I keep them anyway for sentimental value, just like I do with all of the coins that dad picked up in change for me through the years. (You know your parents are awesome when your 18th birthday gift from dad is a roll of Circulated Morgan & Peace dollars and your mom gives you a roll of circulated Mercury dimes!!)

About as likely as MS full red 200+ year old large cents. But they do, in fact, exist.

Most of you nailed it at MS-64:




I think MS-64 * would be more appropriate, I might resubmit it for variety attribution and a shot at a * grade or maybe cross it over to PCGS and see if I can get a 64+ or even a 65 out of them.

I agree with the identification; my question is if it's possible for there to be a clashed version of the variety and if so why it would not be mentioned when the others are.

In other words, is the clash independent of the variety attribution?

I sent your coin pics to Gerry Fortin and heard back from him today. He said its not an F-120 and not an F-102. Its an unknown attributed coin. So looks like a new die pair. Way to go!

In the later common date years there could be a many, many unknown die pairings and stages of those dies. Regarding a clashed die and its place within any die attribution, from what I see, clashing is something that makes up a specific stage of the die as it degenerates. Unless I am incorrect about that statement. If I am not, than sure, you could have an attributed known die pairing and its a perfect die and than at some point it degenerates and you get a sub-set of that die pair. Makes logical sense, I think!

I finally got one right after 1,243 tries, but I'll just listen in from this point.

I've think you've fared better than that!