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A Truly Horrifying Piece Of 90% Junk Silver...

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 Posted 09/25/2015  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

Wow those are some pretty beat up coins. If they could only talk.
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Fire? Or small pox?
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Have to be weighed to get ASW.
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 Posted 09/25/2015  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Severe ED probably corrosion from burial in a high salt environment, either on a beach, near the ocean, or in the ocean but in soil. The unusual pitting makes me suspect the coin was pressed up against wood. It was not conserved when removed, so the atmosphere reacted with the vulnerable metal and further ate it up.

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 Posted 09/25/2015  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Look like dug coins to me too.
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 Posted 09/26/2015  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
If the coin was "ate up" by salt water or acid of some sort wouldn't it weigh less than normal? The first coin the OP posted was near normal weight so the metal is all still there just moved around similar to a parking lot find.
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 Posted 09/26/2015  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earendil to your friends list

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Have to be weighed to get ASW.


While I have not yet weighed the dime, the quarter's weight is actually right on target (6.23 grams versus a standard weight of 6.22 grams)! Judging by the looks of the coin, I had thought it would weigh drastically less.


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Severe ED probably corrosion from burial in a high salt environment, either on a beach, near the ocean, or in the ocean but in soil. The unusual pitting makes me suspect the coin was pressed up against wood. It was not conserved when removed, so the atmosphere reacted with the vulnerable metal and further ate it up.


That's what I thought as well: salt-water damage or exposure, or possibly the effects of a fire. But the question is, where would at least four massively different coins--spread out across at least 100 years--have successively circulated, and then gradually been dropped or lost?

The affected coins include the following (at least; there might be more): an 1891 Seated Liberty dime, an 1853 Seated Liberty quarter, a Washington quarter, and a Stone Mountain Half-Dollar.

As someone else mentioned, what's truly odd is that the quarter, at least, does not appear to have suffered any weight loss. I'll check out the dime later and see how much it comes out to.


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If the coin was "ate up" by salt water or acid of some sort wouldn't it weigh less than normal? The first coin the OP posted was near normal weight so the metal is all still there just moved around similar to a parking lot find.
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Yes, it definitely should, since the metal would start leaching away or breaking down. The quarter was actually a tiny fraction overweight (6.23 grams versus 6.22), but I still have to see how much the dime weighs.

I mentioned this to someone else, but whatever affected this coin affected at least three other ones, all of which are quite different from each other: an 1891 Seated Liberty dime, an 1853 Seated Liberty quarter, a Washington quarter, and a Stone Mountain Half-Dollar. They all exhibit nearly identical damage, which means that whatever accident or mishap affected the quarter and dime had to have impacted the rest of them too.
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 Posted 09/27/2015  11:25 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Long ago fire and then metal detected.
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Great Halloween item.
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Send it to PCGS, and after it comes back send it to CAC.
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 Posted 09/27/2015  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen Z to your friends list
I like how you can just barely see the seated liberty!
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I can tell the dime is an 1853, not sure if it's an O or not.
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Thq - you'd work perfect in an environment in which animals are euthanized...
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 Posted 10/01/2015  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earendil to your friends list

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Long ago fire and then metal detected.


That makes sense. So perhaps it was originally part of someone's coin collection and their house burned down (with the coins inside it). Later, someone went over the site looking for "treasure." The dealer did say that the individual who brought it in had a number of different coins in similarly poor condition.


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Great Halloween item.


It certainly would be! Too bad there weren't a few dozen available.


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Send it to PCGS, and after it comes back send it to CAC.


Ha ha, it might get an award for the worst "Genuine" designation in grading history!


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I like how you can just barely see the seated liberty!


Yep, just barely! That's why I picked the dime and the quarter up: they were cheap, and they are now my first two Seated Liberty coins. I figured that despite their condition, they would be interesting coins to have.


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I can tell the dime is an 1853, not sure if it's an O or not.


The dime is actually an 1891-O. The quarter is an 1853, but I do not see a mintmark anywhere on it (which would explain why the dealer didn't try to salvage it somehow; the Philadelphia one has the highest or second-highest mintage in the entire series).

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