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Making Imitation Capital Plastic Holders Or Ideas?

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 Posted 07/09/2016  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list
Amazing!
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 Posted 07/09/2016  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SomethingIsFishy to your friends list
Nice! Turned out great!!
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 Posted 07/09/2016  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list
This looks great. I am constantly amazed at how other people can come up with such great soultions to their problems.

As I was reading through this thread I was wondering if a 3-D printer would work or am I up in the night?
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 Posted 07/10/2016  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
As a guy who designs and makes plastic parts professionally, very nice job.


3D printing wouldn't work, you would never get the desired clarity.

I love extruders and extrusion like coins (or the Buckeyes) and 3D printing / extruders are more hype than anything.

Never cost effective for any type of scale other than a rapid prototype.

Never as mechanically sound as a conventionally produced part.

3D printers are best for custom parts where there is no market demand to scale up and reduce costs.

That being said, I'd love to build one someday, but don't see the need. Would rather put time and money into a small CNC / laser cutter as I could see me making parts at home with that.

Last note, the OP mentioned drilling slowly to avoid cracking. That will help big time. Also helps with minimizing heat build up and melting the plastic in the hole.

If you haven't, try reversing your drill next time.

I don't drill much plastic other than flower pots and the like for drainage, but the reverse drill always makes a cleaner cut and nicer holes.

I think it is because the reverse drill ejects the chips instead of melting them while drilling into the hole.

Again though, very impressed.

I would have assumed you bought that display it is so nice.
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 Posted 07/10/2016  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
This is a simply stunning display. Nice job! Would you mind sharing your techniques such as plastic thicknesses, is the layer holding the coin sandwiched between sheets of similar thickeness? Did you tap the screw holes or use nuts on the back, and are your labels from a label maker and positioned onto the plastic?

@BuckeyeCoinGuy Thanks for the tip on the backwards drilling. The problem is trying to find a perfect sized drill bit for something as large as a half dollar. I have to use an adjustable bit and will try to reverse it, but the cutting edges (two of them) appear to be just small knife blades instead of slanted, sharpened edges.
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 Posted 07/10/2016  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
Doesn't sound like it will help much with that cutting design.

I used to buy a bunch of custom designed router bits for plastic and that would be the next step, custom made drill bits.

More power to you if you grind them yourself. I DIY, but not at that level.

Ejecting the plastic chips to avoid melting is the key to a good cut per the machine shop that designed my bits.

Great coin board though.
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 Posted 07/10/2016  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
The sandwich includes the outer 2 acrylic sheets, the center foam sheet, and "posters" for the obverse and reverse. A side view is shown below.

The acrylic sheets are 18" x 24". Since they are relatively large, I wanted to make sure the assembly didn't bow, so I chose the back sheet to be 0.25" thick. The front sheet is 0.09" thick.

The foam is volara, which is the same material that is used for foam rings in capsules. Rolls of this foam can be purchased in different colors. This is 1/8" thick white.

The posters were printed out on a campus plotter and show the date, variety, and die pairing that I could identify. The posters also show black and whites of the coins I don't plan on adding to this collection lol.

The best way to drill the holes for me was to progress up in drill bit size from 1/16" to the tapped hole size, and then for the top, the through hole size. I used a drill press and lubricated the bit often with soapy water. I taped the plastic itself with masking tape on both sizes prior to drilling to reduce surface tractions. The back sheet was then tapped for 8-32 screws.

I used an x-acto blade compass cutter to cut out the circles on both sheets of paper and through the foam. The coins fit in the foam circles snugly.

All and all, it took a long time to make but was an enjoyable and rewarding process.


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 Posted 07/10/2016  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
This is genius! I like the foam center. This makes it much easier since there is no need to drill holes the size of the coins themselves. I think you just solved a major problem for me. I am interested in making my own "album" pages.
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 Posted 07/11/2016  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list
That looks great.
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 Posted 07/11/2016  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list

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This is genius! I like the foam center. This makes it much easier since there is no need to drill holes the size of the coins themselves.

Excellent job
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 Posted 07/11/2016  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I know six of the seven holes that still need to be filled but you never show a good picture of the seventh one. I'll hazard a guess and say 39/6? If so it will probably be the easiest one to fill. Pricey but not hard to come by. And you might be able to cherry pick the 34 N-5.
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 Posted 07/11/2016  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
The poster over the foam is probably the neatest part to me. Solves the hole size issue and looks better than raw foam or even the colored plastic that Capital uses.

I think you could sell enough of them through this forum to pay for a coin or two to fill some of those holes.

This is an improvement over Capital Plastics holders with some light tweaking.

If you made both top and bottom clear sheets thicker you could probably minimize some of the tooling for all the fasteners. Probably cheaper that way in the end when labor isn't free.

You would also only need to stock the one part thickness for top / bottom sheet then too.

Last concern I would see would be the paper and ink for the poster. You wouldn't want any interactions between them and the coins over time.
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 Posted 07/11/2016  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
The more I think about it, I'd use two poster layers.

An under layer with all the coin images for the holes and an over the foam layer for coin information.
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 Posted 07/11/2016  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
I think my posters (if I use them) will not be paper. I don't like anything with a potential for holding water with my coins. This is why I hope to make all plastic holders/album pages (now with foam middle layer though!).
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