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Changeover Pair Found - 1934 And 1934A $5 FRNs

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 Posted 01/30/2016  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Wow. Congratulations. That is an amazing pair.
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 Posted 01/31/2016  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
What are the chances.... wow. Nice pair.
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 Posted 01/31/2016  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list

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Let me just say how super and rare this pair is, especially circulated like this. How they ever ended up together is amazing.

Way to go, tech.

Coinfrog, how super and rare? First pair I've ever had in all my years of collecting.
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 Posted 01/31/2016  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
tech - not my field, I'm afraid. I do know that most of these sets I've seen are in high grades. You might try sending an e-mail with your pics to Don C. Kelly (you'll find his site on Google).
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 Posted 02/01/2016  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Missouriblue to your friends list
I thought a change over pair was the back plate numbers going from Mule to Non-Mule while the obverse serial numbers are in susquential order.
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 Posted 02/01/2016  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Missouriblue to your friends list
Sorry forgot to put from the same year.
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 Posted 02/01/2016  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Missouri - you are not wrong.

Just to clarify -

A "changeover pair" simply describes notes with 2 consecutive serial numbers that have different series #s, or sigs, or mule #s, or wide/narrow designations.

There are many possibilites.

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 Posted 02/02/2016  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
This one is particularly interesting, IMO. Both FA, one series apart, same sigs (Julian and Morganthaler are awesome sigs BTW), one SN digit apart.

Now that I just typed that, it makes me wonder, what is the difference between 34 and 34A? Same sigs, so something else had to change besides office.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Changeover pairs are endlessly fascinating, and they basically exist because of the high cost of engraving new plates. In short, the BEP kept using older plates along with newer plates even after the signature combos had changed. In other words, they might be printing two different series/sig combos consecutively on the same day, not to mention other stuff like wide/narrow variations.

This makes sense when you remember that the serial number is the third printing (EMPHASIS)), so with random plates in position, all kinds of goofy changeover pairs came into being.

There are also "reverse" changeover pairs, as you might imagine under this scenario, where sequentially numbered notes show the PRIOR series # or sig combo, etc.

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 Posted 02/03/2016  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mfhorn to your friends list
Took me a second to see the difference....AWESOME!
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 Posted 02/03/2016  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
Thought I would add a little to the discussion regarding how the changeover pair can happen. First, it is best to remember that at the time the small size notes were printed on 12-note sheets, then cut into 6-note sheets for printing of the serial numbers. Also it is important to note that during this time consecutive numbering was being used to print the serial numbers. I've included a link to a super site all about U.S. paper money. Click the link and then scroll down the page to the section Consecutive Numbering, 1861-1953
Hope this helps.
http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/arithm.html
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 Posted 02/03/2016  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Thanks - good reference.
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 Posted 02/04/2016  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TTcoins to your friends list
A beautiful old note! Thank you for sharing.
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 Posted 02/14/2016  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
Well, here's a photo from a friend who recently acquired the pictured notes. To his surprise there was a PAIR of changeover pairs. Take a look at the first two notes and the last two notes.
First two: a 'normal' changeover pair
serial 5726A Series 1934 Plate F
serial 5727A Series 1934A Plate A
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Last two: an 'unexpected' reverse changeover pair
serial 5744A Series 1934A Plate F
serial 5745A Series 1934 Plate A
==

Just wanted to share. Enjoy

Changeover-Pair-Found---1934-And-1934A-$5-FRNs
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