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Cleaning Debris Off An 1857 Flying Eagle

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 Posted 02/01/2016  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
I'd vote to leave it as is too. Good honest character.
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 Posted 02/01/2016  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
I'd leave it alone. It was used and used hard - and that's what I love about circulated coins...
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 Posted 02/01/2016  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NHPenny to your friends list
Thanks guys. I did some research on buying coins beforehand, and I realize the rim dings hurt its value, but subjectively I care much more about the quality of the faces of the coin than the rim, and other examples with similar condition faces without rim dings were $25+, and I wasn't willing to spend that much. Also, its monetary value isn't really my concern, I just want to preserve its originality and remove any dirt.
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 Posted 02/01/2016  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Acetone is your best bet. Soak and use a toothpick or rose thorn to pick away the debris. Follow up by applying a treatment such as Verdi-Care or Blue Ribbon. The acetone is a solvent, and the Verdi-Care or Blue Ribbon will stabilize the surface and prevent further damage and corrosion. It's just like the metal on a firearm; you want to use a solvent to dissolve any dirt and then apply something to protect and condition the surface, such as Rem Oil or Ballistol or whatever you use.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LocalCoinGuy to your friends list
Soak in acetone and use toothpick to lift dirt off .... Put on towel and pat both sides and let it dry several hours and then treat with verdicare ....

Please come back and show after pics, thanks!
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 Posted 02/02/2016  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list
I would leave it, but if you really want to get the dirt off, follow the other members' suggestions and use acetone. However, I think the dirt is part of the coin's character. It was picked up through honest circulation a century and a half ago, and would be left there if it were up to me, especially since you seem to be more interested in the history than the numismatic value.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Go-Rebels to your friends list
This coin looks better dirty than clean. I'd leave it alone.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LocalCoinGuy to your friends list
Issue is there could be environmental damaging happening right before your eyes .... I see some green growth in the photos and by restoring (not cleaning) you can stop any more damage from occurring .....

Coin is not of huge value and I believe it is worth any risks that maybe associated with value ....

But whatever you do don't rub it with any type of cloth, even microfiber, and only use a wooden toothpick and let the acetone work!
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 Posted 02/02/2016  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Go-Rebels to your friends list

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Issue is there could be environmental damaging happening right before your eyes .... I see some green growth in the photos and by restoring (not cleaning) you can stop any more damage from occurring .....

We'll all be dead by the time whatever active corrosion degrades this coin further...
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 Posted 02/02/2016  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list
NHPenny - First things first: to CCF. You've raised a couple of important questions. These kinds of questions (and many others) are what we, collectors, talk about all the time. You're going to want to know (eventually) about conservation vs. cleaning, proper handling of the coin, storage options, grading, etc.

You're not a collector. That's fine (we've heard that before). But one day you're going to see a US Half-Cent, Large-Cent, Two-Cent, Three-Cent Nickel/Silver, a Morgan, Peace, or Ike dollar that you can't resist and suddenly, you ARE a collector.

The greatest favor you could do for yourself would be to continue being involved, and asking questions here, on CCF. Go to the search function (top left corner) and begin to find out why we are so excited about the field of Numismatics. Did you know there are whole books written about your two coins?

You've made a great start with your first find, and a first purchase. Don't stop now. There is a TON of information waiting for you concerning your first two coins and CCF is the place to begin the adventure. Dig in! Jack
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 Posted 02/02/2016  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfusion to your friends list
Yes and you came to the right place for sure. Lots of knowledgeable guys and gals here to answer our questions and help us along
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 Posted 02/02/2016  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Sounds like soaking in distilled water and scrubbing with a plastic bristled brush is safe, but beyond that?

Soaking it in distilled water is fine. Soaking in Acetone might work better. CAREFUL picking at any crud that doesn't dissolve with a rose thorn may be OK. SCRUBBING with a plastic bristle brush is NOT a good idea.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list
NHPenny - Condor is right! Especially at this stage of your collecting, NO SCRUBBING! A good general rule is soak (hydrogen peroxide and/or acetone), preserve with Verdi-Care, and that's it. Some will tell you the coin is not valuable so go ahead and scrub it. Don't do it! Start with the right approach and you'll be a lot happier in the long run. Jack

PS - Your coin will eventually be owned by someone else. If you do your best to preserve it properly, it will thrill another collector later in its life.
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 Posted 02/03/2016  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LocalCoinGuy to your friends list
Use wooden toothpick, not a plastic brush!
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 Posted 02/04/2016  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list
I don't think you did too well. Too much rim damage for the price.
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