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Bedrock of the Community
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It's an electrotype copy. Not an electroplated original.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:Electro is ebay slang for "electroplated" which was a method contemporary counterfiters used to make counterfits for circulation which are highly prized collectors items today however if you put the word counterfit even with contemporary before it ebay will kill the listing. So he's just getting around the ebay bot while still conveying what it is to those that collect them. However I have no idea if the price is high but I would suspect so Not quite... The collectible 19th century electrotypes were produced privately to satisfy the demand for collectors who could not obtain genuine specimens of the real thing. "Electro" does not mean "electroplated"; it means electrolytic deposition of copper on a mold. The results are very obvious copies, even by a novice, and should never fool anyone as being genuine US minted coins. I own a few early electrotypes of chain cents, 1799 cents and 1804 cents. They usually trade hands for ~ $100. (Does ebay allow the sale/auction of early electrotypes?)
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: It's an electrotype copy. Not an electroplated original. Why would anyone electroplate an original?
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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That 1793 Half Cent is not a bad specimen of a 19th century electrotype.
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Pillar of the Community
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Shouldn't all electrotype'd coins say COPY like Moe's does since it is not an original?
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Shouldn't all electrotype'd coins say COPY like Moe's does since it is not an original? Only those produced since 1973, when the Hobby Protection Act was passed.
Edited by ExoGuy 02/02/2016 3:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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No, simply because the vast majority of electrotypes pre-date the Hobby Protection Act of 1973 by many decades.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This was discussed on another forum a day or two ago. I don't believe it is an electrotype, I believe it is just a modern fake. Quote: Shouldn't all electrotype'd coins say COPY like Moe's does since it is not an original? Only if it was made after 1973. (Frankly I don't know of anyone making electrotypes anymore. Casting is easier, and die struck copies allow for a much larger production run giving them more fakes to sell.)
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Forum Dad
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I checked on it, it's a highly collectible contemporary and will stay up.
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Moderator
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^ agree
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Pillar of the Community
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Just checked and it sold.
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Pillar of the Community
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 with Bobby, the EAC regularly offers these in their convention auctions, they sell in the $100-400 range depending on the date and variety of course. Very collectible on the old electrotypes.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Where is ebay's coin selling policy does it say that replicas or counterfeit coins are OK to sell if they are done a long time ago (contemporary counterfeits), or that it is OK if they are "collectible"? If I list a fake 1909-S VDB, but call it a highly collectible contemporary, then that is OK? Seems like a huge loophole to me.
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Edited by nss-52 02/04/2016 08:48 am
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Rest in Peace
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 It seems I read some where that the contemporary counterfeit micro "o" Morgans are against ebay policy and they pre-date the hobby protection act as well. Where is the line? 
Edited by dave700x 02/04/2016 09:00 am
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