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2016 Natick And Gilbert Experimental Note Census Wanted

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 Posted 06/14/2017  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
You would think the very thing PAPER money is printed on (PAPER) would be a bigger deal. But alas, the overall paper money collector community doesn't give this brief, alternate source of security paper much attention. I'm guessing, without being accompanied by a Gilbert pamphlet or leaflet, a 1963A G-G or G-B note does not have any collector value.

I'm currently in negotiations with Tom for his stash of G-G notes found in the Gilbert Paper Company administration building. I'm hoping to get them for historical preservation, and not for profit.
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 Posted 06/14/2017  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notehunter494 to your friends list
Thanks Steve, boy I would sure like a couple of those if it ever come through. They would be a real piece of paper money history, paper not from Crane. Maybe we can make a trade.
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 Posted 06/14/2017  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
notehunter494,
Without being able to purchase both the series 1963 Gilbert C-A Block note and series 1963A G-G note found in Gilbert's Safe, I gave up on my idea on how to provide the necessary proof required to show the notes found in Gilbert's Safe was printed on Gilbert Stock...
I spent about $150 while waiting to purchase the above two Gilbert notes, purchasing a number of high grade raw Star notes from both series 1963 C-* & 1963A G-* Notes, as I believe with the amount of Currency Stock delivered by Gilbert to the BEP (and knowing Natick Star replacement notes had been printed on Natick Test Paper 6 years after Gilbert's Test Paper), I believe one or more Star (replacement) Runs may have been printed on Gilbert Paper..

Without having the Gilbert Sample C-A pamphlet note, everything else is useless.

I also believe that the series 1977A 8,000 Sheet Run of $10.00 E-* notes were printed to replace and defective E-B $10 notes, and have been searching for examples from each of the 14 Runs the BEP printed the same month they printed the Star notes.. I do have 3 Natick Notes available and can use one for forensic testing should I obtain some of the E-B $10 notes.

I recently reactivated my SPMC membership after letting it expire almost 20 year's ago, and posted 2 Blogs, for Natick & Web-Press Overprint Errors. If there is interest in either of those 2 Census's, I can post them here on CCF.
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 Posted 06/14/2017  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notehunter494 to your friends list
Broken-Coin,
Many Thanks for the follow up. I guess without additional documentation from the BEP or Gilbert personal we are at a dead end. I too have been accumulating the stars for the 1963A Chicago, they are plentiful and relatively cheap, I have a few for each run. The stars for the 1963 plain Philadelphia are much more difficult. I only have a couple that are with some district sets I purchased long ago. As for the $10 Natick I collected many way back but, sadly, after going through the serial numbers none match the higher number run that represents the Natick notes as identified in Azipazu's spiral bound reference. The hunt goes on.
I feel it would be very valuable to have your updated Census information for Natick and Web-Press Overprint Errors on CCF.
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 Posted 12/17/2018  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
If I didn't already have, I'd be all over this. It's already at twice auction estimate.

https://currency.ha.com/itm/small-s...1851-82252.s
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 Posted 09/18/2020  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dutchman48 to your friends list
If anyone is still working on this, I can supply scans of 3 Gilbert Notes with serial numbers C61069423A, 24A, and 25A as I used to own them.
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 Posted 09/18/2020  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
@dutchman48, how did you end up with three consecutive examples, and where are they now ?
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 Posted 09/18/2020  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dutchman48 to your friends list
I purchased as a set of 3 on ebay for cheap cheap, about $15. The dealer did not bother to check what he was selling.

They have been sold to collectors, one on ebay and the other 2 privately.
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 Posted 09/18/2020  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
Thanks. If you have the images, please feel free to post them.
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 Posted 09/18/2020  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dutchman48 to your friends list
Here they are


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 Posted 09/18/2020  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Nice notes!
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 Posted 10/29/2022  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frozensky to your friends list
Hello everyone. I just wanted to share my luck about a Natick note I purchased recently on ebay. The seller had no idea what he was selling. And it is a Mule note!!!

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 Posted 10/30/2022  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
Welcome to CCF frozensky.
Please post a photo of the note.
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