Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Specializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

2016 Natick And Gilbert Experimental Note Census Wanted

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 94 / Views: 19,476Next Topic
Page: of 7
Valued Member
United States
61 Posts
 Posted 11/16/2016  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notehunter494 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen Natick overprint error E79299659H which is low consecutive to the group of 5 Jess has listed on ebay. It was PCGS64.
Valued Member
United States
61 Posts
 Posted 11/16/2016  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notehunter494 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To answer GoldenChest question in the 7/14/16 post. Yes my non error Natick note is in the consensus, it is serial number E79830742H Gem CU. and as a follow up to my above post the error Natick E79299659H PCGS64 is without any Natick designation on the holder.
Pillar of the Community
Broken-Coin's Avatar
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 11/19/2016  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks notehunter494, this is the 41st confirmed Natick error on my census..

The PCGS & 2 PMG errors I purchased also didn't have the Natick Test Paper designation on the Holders..
Valued Member
United States
61 Posts
 Posted 06/14/2017  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notehunter494 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, It has been a while and I have to ask if there have been any updates to the Gilbert Paper possible dates/series and blocks. As of about this time last year we have $1 1963 Block C-A Run#96 (C60800001A - C61440000A) as documented. Series $1 1963A Block G-G Run#41 (G25600001G - G26240000G) as verified by paper work documentation but officially verified by BEP records? That is to ask would the grading services put an attribute to these notes being on Gilbert Paper? Lastly $1 1963 Block G-B Run#121 (G76800001B - G77440000B) as observed by Bruce Jedwabny, the grandson of a Gilbert Paper employee. With respect to this last observation, Run 121, has it ever been determined that these are 1963 plain series or 1963A and is there a possibility of photos and or documentation from the Company? Thanks
Pillar of the Community
SteveInTampa's Avatar
United States
4637 Posts
 Posted 06/14/2017  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would think the very thing PAPER money is printed on (PAPER) would be a bigger deal. But alas, the overall paper money collector community doesn't give this brief, alternate source of security paper much attention. I'm guessing, without being accompanied by a Gilbert pamphlet or leaflet, a 1963A G-G or G-B note does not have any collector value.

I'm currently in negotiations with Tom for his stash of G-G notes found in the Gilbert Paper Company administration building. I'm hoping to get them for historical preservation, and not for profit.
Valued Member
United States
61 Posts
 Posted 06/14/2017  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notehunter494 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Steve, boy I would sure like a couple of those if it ever come through. They would be a real piece of paper money history, paper not from Crane. Maybe we can make a trade.
Pillar of the Community
Broken-Coin's Avatar
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 06/14/2017  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
notehunter494,
Without being able to purchase both the series 1963 Gilbert C-A Block note and series 1963A G-G note found in Gilbert's Safe, I gave up on my idea on how to provide the necessary proof required to show the notes found in Gilbert's Safe was printed on Gilbert Stock...
I spent about $150 while waiting to purchase the above two Gilbert notes, purchasing a number of high grade raw Star notes from both series 1963 C-* & 1963A G-* Notes, as I believe with the amount of Currency Stock delivered by Gilbert to the BEP (and knowing Natick Star replacement notes had been printed on Natick Test Paper 6 years after Gilbert's Test Paper), I believe one or more Star (replacement) Runs may have been printed on Gilbert Paper..

Without having the Gilbert Sample C-A pamphlet note, everything else is useless.

I also believe that the series 1977A 8,000 Sheet Run of $10.00 E-* notes were printed to replace and defective E-B $10 notes, and have been searching for examples from each of the 14 Runs the BEP printed the same month they printed the Star notes.. I do have 3 Natick Notes available and can use one for forensic testing should I obtain some of the E-B $10 notes.

I recently reactivated my SPMC membership after letting it expire almost 20 year's ago, and posted 2 Blogs, for Natick & Web-Press Overprint Errors. If there is interest in either of those 2 Census's, I can post them here on CCF.
Valued Member
United States
61 Posts
 Posted 06/14/2017  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add notehunter494 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Broken-Coin,
Many Thanks for the follow up. I guess without additional documentation from the BEP or Gilbert personal we are at a dead end. I too have been accumulating the stars for the 1963A Chicago, they are plentiful and relatively cheap, I have a few for each run. The stars for the 1963 plain Philadelphia are much more difficult. I only have a couple that are with some district sets I purchased long ago. As for the $10 Natick I collected many way back but, sadly, after going through the serial numbers none match the higher number run that represents the Natick notes as identified in Azipazu's spiral bound reference. The hunt goes on.
I feel it would be very valuable to have your updated Census information for Natick and Web-Press Overprint Errors on CCF.
Pillar of the Community
SteveInTampa's Avatar
United States
4637 Posts
 Posted 12/17/2018  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I didn't already have, I'd be all over this. It's already at twice auction estimate.

https://currency.ha.com/itm/small-s...1851-82252.s
New Member
Canada
8 Posts
 Posted 09/18/2020  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dutchman48 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone is still working on this, I can supply scans of 3 Gilbert Notes with serial numbers C61069423A, 24A, and 25A as I used to own them.
Pillar of the Community
SteveInTampa's Avatar
United States
4637 Posts
 Posted 09/18/2020  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@dutchman48, how did you end up with three consecutive examples, and where are they now ?
New Member
Canada
8 Posts
 Posted 09/18/2020  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dutchman48 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased as a set of 3 on ebay for cheap cheap, about $15. The dealer did not bother to check what he was selling.

They have been sold to collectors, one on ebay and the other 2 privately.
Pillar of the Community
SteveInTampa's Avatar
United States
4637 Posts
 Posted 09/18/2020  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. If you have the images, please feel free to post them.
New Member
Canada
8 Posts
 Posted 09/18/2020  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dutchman48 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here they are


2016-Natick-And-Gilbert-Experimental-Note-Census-Wanted

2016-Natick-And-Gilbert-Experimental-Note-Census-Wanted

2016-Natick-And-Gilbert-Experimental-Note-Census-Wanted

2016-Natick-And-Gilbert-Experimental-Note-Census-Wanted

2016-Natick-And-Gilbert-Experimental-Note-Census-Wanted

2016-Natick-And-Gilbert-Experimental-Note-Census-Wanted
Pillar of the Community
westernsky's Avatar
United States
7624 Posts
 Posted 09/18/2020  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice notes!
  Previous TopicReplies: 94 / Views: 19,476Next Topic
Page: of 7

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.48 seconds to rattle this change. Forums