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1998 And 2000 5 Cents Identical Die Cracks

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 Posted 04/02/2016  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WizBang to your friends list
Nickelsguy.....you should get that ebay 1999.....would be nice to have 3 consecutive years with similar diecracks...
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 Posted 04/02/2016  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list

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Interesting that the '99 die crack has
progressed farther into the coin than the '00 crack.


I thought that the progressive nature of a die crack means
that a later die state sees the size (length) of the crack
progressing to a larger crack as time went by and coins
were pressed. Where you see a shorter d/c in 2000 is odd
to me. In the ebay example - 1999, the d/c extends to the
island whereas the 2000 example it fades in the field just
NW of the A in CANADA.

How does this happen?
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 Posted 04/02/2016  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list

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How does this happen?
Die cracks are generally progressive, they grow with time and use.
However these are not from the same die.That these are in the same place indicates a flaw in the material or process used to make the die common to those years,or something peculiar to the striking method or equipment creating abnormally high stress in that area, or a combination of die and striking problems.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 04/02/2016  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list
Thanks DBM.
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 Posted 04/02/2016  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list

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However these are not from the same die.


I agree....but I will be on the lookout for any of these..and then pass them on to Mikey..
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 Posted 04/02/2016  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
Same denticle Roger.
DBM I have no ability to image the edge sorry.
The 1999 now fits between these two. Thanks to DBM.
Thank you Derek!
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 Posted 04/04/2016  05:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M_d_in_guy to your friends list
MM, I pulled aside early stage 1996-2000 of this DC where the crack is from the tip of the A to the beads, this pic is the 2000. PM me if you can use pics of the others or perhaps all of the coins.

Jon

DBM more proof of what you mentioned in your post here.






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 Posted 04/04/2016  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
PM sent MD.

My research shows me that as the die crack progresses it puts extra pressure (shear) on the collar as well cracking. With the reverse die and collar not being in the same location adjacent to each other the collar crack appears to spread slightly as is apparent on the flat of the rim in the two coins above. The same is evident on the 1996 5 cents with a very small reverse crack which also has damaged the collar.
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Thanks Mike, PM replied to. I'll check the rest of my stash and see what else there may be along this line. That would be cool if you could get the complete stages of progression right to the very last when it was changed out, be it any or most of the years.
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 Posted 04/06/2016  12:34 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Here is another one... from 1998. Waaaaay overpriced for a die crack, in my opinion.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/141933273237
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 Posted 04/06/2016  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
As I leave numismatics, it will be the need of understanding the causes and effects which bring a coin (or in this case a group) to where it/they are today that I will likely miss the most. A wonderful aspect of the hobby which too few are interested in.
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As I leave numismatics...


We will do our best to keep you in "some part" of the loop..
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 Posted 04/06/2016  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
It can't be helped... I secretly know that you love fishing too much!!

Can't wait for the derby bud....
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 Posted 06/10/2020  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SP67 to your friends list
This is an old subject, but it seems the 1999 has a very similar die crack compared to 1998 and 2000.


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 Posted 06/10/2020  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
The '99 doesn't look like it affects any of the bead ... the others do. A die crack (or any metal crack) usually starts at a sharp change in angle .. in this case the bottom of the serif of the A .. the thinnest place on the die once struck.
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