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Valued Member
United States
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Dec 2018 €100:2804 million, €200:256 million, €500:522 million in circulation ----- Production statistics from ECB 2015 €100, €200, €500 zero production 2016 €100:176 million 2017 €100:850 million, €200:284 million 2018 €100:2300 million, €200:715 million 2019 €100, €200 zero production It certainly seems as if the ECB has produced enough Europa €100 and €200 banknotes to replace all of the €500 banknotes =========== I am certainly not suggesting that all or even a majority of the 522 million €500 banknotes will be replaced by the 1000CHF banknotes. Some percentage will be retained as is, since the old notes are still legal tender, and the bulk of them will be replaced with new Europa €100 and €200 banknotes.
What I am suggesting is that the beauty of the new 1000CHF banknote and the simple fact that it is the last of giant denominations will attract people. The current circulation level of 50 million 1000CHF notes could substantially increase to over 100 million in two years, and then grow year after year. I think beauty is significant. People like to look at things and show them off. The Euro banknotes are deliberately pedestrian looking. A significant increase would allow Switzerland to reduce federal taxes.
Edited by PacoMartin 01/27/2019 01:53 am
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United States
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Response to Walk2dwater http://goccf.com/t/258616&whichpage=3#2895167Thank you for the references at the Bank of Canada website. The article "Is a Cashless Society Problematic?" dated October 2018 in discussing Sweden states that "More recently, the demand for SEK 500 notes has also started to decline." The SEK500=CAD$73 is the dominate note for ATMs in Sweden,as the SEK1000 banknote is now only circulating in token quantities. As the article probably used older data they wouldn't realize that the SEK500 banknote increased in circulation by 16% in the year 2018. There is some evidence that the trend toward "cashlessness" may invoke a societal backlash at some point. People begin to worry about entrusting too much to banks and they almost become afraid that if they don't use cash it will vanish. Iceland developed the most cashless society in the world in the mid 1980s. At the time Sweden had more cash in circulation than almost any country in the world (on par with Switzerland). They were still circulating a banknote denominated as 10,000 SEK which was worth roughly US$2000. Finland also went through a period of near cashlessness in the late 1990s. Iceland resurrected cash after all the banks went under in 2008, and Finland resurrected cash as it entered the Euro Area. The ECB instructed Finland to produce a certain number of notes worth far more than the supply of Finnish Markka. Cash began to circulate in Finland in increasing amounts since 2002. While I applaud the South Korean to eliminate coins in an effort to speed up routine transactions, I think high denomination banknotes are comforting to people, and I am not sure if they will vanish. The image of Demi Moore rolling on a bed covered in banknotes will never need explanatory closed captions for our children https://s3.drafthouse.com/images/ma...426_81_s.jpg
Edited by PacoMartin 01/26/2019 6:54 pm
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United States
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As of Jan 2019 notes in circulation €278,511,458,700 in €100 notes €51,268,072,200 in €200 notes €258,143,830,500 in €500 notes Production statistics for Europa series (issue date May 25 2019) €332,600,000,000 in €100 notes €198,000,000,000 in €200 notes Keeping in mind that the old €500 notes will remain legal tender it remains to be seen how many will be retained. The assumption is that a large percentage will be exchanged in first year, The new 1000CHF banknote was released today. 10 weeks in advance of the new Europa banknotes. I am bullish on the new note, and I expect to see tens of millions of these notes bought up by people outside of Switzerland. Other people on this forum have said that it won't happen. 
Edited by PacoMartin 03/07/2019 12:59 pm
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United States
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As of 28 May 2019 €100 and €200 banknotes were issued to complete the Europa series. The number of €500 banknotes in circulation dropped 3% from 1 January to 30 April this year, but presumably many will be exchanged for the new Europa €200 series banknotes.
The ECB produced roughly a billion €200 note anticipating a newfound popularity for the series. The old €200 banknote never circulated more than 270 million, as the €500 banknote circulation got as high as 307 million notes at the end of 2015 before the ECB announced that it would be withdrawn from the Europa series.
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Quote: as the €500 banknote circulation got as high as 307 million notes at the end of 2015 Actually, the peak of €500 bills in ''circulation'' was 613.56 Million in December of 2015.
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United States
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You are right, of course, I meant to say 307 billion Euros in December 2015.
Since this war on the criminal banknote started, the 500 Euro notes in circulation are down to what they were 10-11 years ago. They should continue to drop as the new 100 and 200 Euro notes begin to circulate.
Does everyone in the EU feel safer yet?
BTW, in Sweden, the war on cash seems to have called a truce. The cash supply has returned to the level it was 2 years and 9 months ago when the last two banknotes were reissued. It will be interesting to see what happens if Sweden introduces central bank digital currency. Personally, I would wager that it makes no change to the cash supply.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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If the European Union doesn't get its act together soon, with the issuance of currency notes they may be in trouble.
There is going to be an explosion and cross use of crypto currencies. That will make the European economy far harder to control, and the payment for illegal drugs far easier.
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Canada
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Quote: BTW, in Sweden, the war on cash seems to have called a truce. The cash supply has returned to the level it was 2 years and 9 months ago when the last two banknotes were reissued. -This may be the result of perceived (or real) Russian navy trespasses into various regions throughout Scandinavia (the Baltic Sea) and Sweden's recent efforts to prepare its citizens for possible emergencies. I believe the Swedish government realized that should their grid go down a large portion of their population wouldn't have any e-money available (or means of commerce). The BOC published a paper last year speculating on the pros/cons of going cashless & the authors suggested a similar scenario in times of crises/or emergencies. Instead of taking measures to protect/induce more of its population to use cash- the BOC then started to investigate employing its own cryptocurrency. Quote: Since this war on the criminal banknote started, the 500 Euro notes in circulation are down to what they were 10-11 years ago. The Better Than Cash Alliance https://www.betterthancash.org is winning the battle towards a cashless society hands down. Several of its proponents like to dub high denominations (such as the 500 Euro) with terms like the "Bin Laden" note even though many of them also cite Bitcoin as the realm of mostly criminal commerce.
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United States
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As of end of June 2019 there are 298,545,000 200EUR banknotes and 487,175,000 500EUR banknotes in circulation. But they printed a billion 200EUR notes of the Europa series expecting that denomination to be more popular since there is no 500EUR denomination in the Europa series.
The colorful nickname, "The Bin Laden", has probably done a lot to change people's perception of the 500EUR banknote, but frankly it is certainly much easier to launder money using some of the 13.4 billion US$100 banknotes in circulation. They outnumber the 12.4 billion $1 banknotes and the 9.4 billion $20 banknotes.
Laundering money requires banknotes of a significant value, but if they are extremely rare they attract undue attention.
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Valued Member
United States
411 Posts |
The €500 banknote seems to be getting destroyed at the rate of about 9 million per month for the last four months, so with 471 million in circulation there should be a reasonable supply for many years.
The €200 banknote, as predicted is gaining in popularity at 9.4 million per month for 2019. Overall there is no decreases in the cumulative value of Euro banknotes.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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For all the talk here about the use of notes, what about the matters of collecting?
I collected the earlier series of notes (sans €200 & €500.) when I first holidayed in the zone.
I find the designs fairly un inspiring and presume the will never have much collectors value due to their large issuance.
Does anyone here have much interest in these? Is anyone looking to add a €500 to their collection?
It seems quite a lot of money to have tied up in something modern, and with presumably a bad outlook.
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United States
411 Posts |
With over 470 million in circulation, it's value as a collector's item is minimal. It is just tying up a lot of money in a note which will be difficult to get rid of.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
843 Posts |
I travel to Europe quite often, so I always have an envelope of euro notes on hand. The designs were interesting twenty years ago, but even with the updates the novelty has worn off. I just flipped through my envelope and see several series with minor changes over the years. The color scheme is gaudy and the different sizes annoy me (harder to count and sort). (Yes, I know why they do that...)
As for 500-Euro notes, I've only ever had one and couldn't wait to spend it. Too much money trapped in one piece of paper for my tastes. And given that they have very little if any collector premium, good riddance. I do like the 200-Euro notes: the yellow is attractive, but again, I don't like to trap my money like that. And they're hard to spend at cafes etc.
Edited by jeffbuckes 10/03/2019 10:35 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have only met a few collectors who have a taste & budget for higher denominations. They would likely zero in on the 2002 Irish or Finish, Austrian or Spanish Duisenberg notes (though I heard the Irish 500 was pretty scarce too). I would consider this a "niche market" or "specialty" of the hobby.
As far as Euros on the whole go- I believe there's greater demand for the 2002 lower denominations (5,10,20) with the Duisenberg & Trichet signatures. I don't think the Draghi notes have the same demand. I have created a short video with more info on this topic on my signature panel & on my "Notaphilyc Culture" Website.
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Valued Member
United States
411 Posts |
Number of notes in circulation as the end of January 2020 (multiply by a million) 440.5 €500 banknotes 431.9 €200 banknotes 3,036.7 €100 banknotes 10,980.7 €50 banknotes 8,462.7 €5+€10+€20 banknotes
The number of circulating €200 banknotes has nearly surpassed the €500 banknotes.
Now that the coronavirus has reached Italy who knows what will be the effect on banknotes. People may simply use electronic payments to replace the smaller value banknotes, but keep the less widely circulated €200 notes as cash backup.
Edited by PacoMartin 02/24/2020 11:06 pm
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