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Coin Dealers Only Offer Me Gold Spot For 2008-W $10 1/4 Gold Proof Buffalo

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 Posted 04/24/2016  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
Do NOT try to sell to a dealer. they will perpetuate this notion of these coins only are worth spot. Bull crap. I guarantee that if he was selling it, it would have an 1100.00 price tag on it. No, they cant pay you full value, but this spot thing is a huge load of steaming poop.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paxbrit to your friends list
Take some good photos of your coin, and put it on ebay for whatever price you want, BIN or auction. Ship on clearance of funds.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
It is a 1000$ coin no matter what the dealer says.

You just have to find the right, honest dealer that needs it or sell it yourself online.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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Is this dealer a ripoff or is this normal for a local coin shop.


It's possible they don't know what it's worth but that offer (melt) is absurd. 1/4oz proof buffs are worth multiples of melt. Around $1,000 retail.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Charles Morgan to your friends list
A 2008-W in PCGS PR70DCAM sold for $418 on ebay this month. There's no dealer bid on products like this. The Early Releases label means little in the industry in the aftermarket. The dealer will not get $1100 for the coin. The retail price being quoted on this thread and in periodicals is not in line with reality. Seldom is with modern coins.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
This is a Buffalo Charles. Not an Eagle. Here's a typical price on a 1/4oz PR70 Buff, $1445: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-W-10-A...AOSwxp9W25CY

Proof 1/4oz Buffs retail at $1000 raw.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Charles Morgan to your friends list
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 Posted 04/24/2016  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Charles Morgan to your friends list
oh, I see. you are right. still tough to find dealers to buy these modern slabbed bullion coins and proofs.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Hey Charles, you don't show up too often. Nice to see you around!

Op, there's also a similar thread going in the modern forum about a dealer offering melt for a 1991 ms70 ASE currently
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 Posted 04/24/2016  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NoPoMoCo to your friends list
Same OP, and probably same LCS/dealer. The consensus is that the dealer is following a singular (and clueless) code as a buyer.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greenprint to your friends list
silver is silver I guess. Also graded bullion is kind of a scam some think? So maybe that's what they thought. I read some were that most bullion coins are 69 or 70 and that a 68 would be a poor strike. So I can understand the grade not mattering to them but suprised not some premium for the coin aspect as apposed to a round. Do they pay spot for rounds to?
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 Posted 04/24/2016  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverai to your friends list
Most coin dealers only offer spot price regardless of the PM premium. This is the way they make profit.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverai to your friends list
Rip off? Yes, because they know you need quick cash badly.
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 Posted 04/25/2016  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alvaro77 to your friends list
I don't need cash badly I just lost interest in the coin.
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 Posted 04/25/2016  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list
First off, pitch any price guide, really means nada with these modern coins.

Second, the true price of that coin and any other is going to be best determined by tracking auctions or auction data such as from ebay. Not for what they are selling for but what they actually went for at auction.

Thirdly, I wouldnt waste my time trying to sell anything to a dealer except straight up bullion rounds. Dont expect them to pay you a premium even if the coin, say a modern NCLT does command a premium which they do, depends on which one, how many etc etc.

In that case, it would be better to sell on ebay where you would get fair market value.

Hey look, dealers are in it to make a profit. I Would bet most would only pay spot then turn around and sell the coin for a premium if the coin warrants one, thats a no brainer. I cant say I can blame them for making a profit but that doesn't mean I Am just going to hand them the profit.

... just looked at ebay... this coin is going for more than spot. I rest my case. I agree tho, most dealers, 90%, if not more, are not going to pay you for that tho. But why do you need them? Sell here, sell on ebay,etc, some collector out there wants it and will buy it from you.
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