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1900 S Morgan Dollar - Cleaned? Better Pictures

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 Posted 04/24/2016  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list
Unfortunately, it can't be graded. You can't say that this coin is a MS60. Then say that this coin has been cleaned to an MS60. Once a surface has been artificially altered, you can call it an MS70 and it won't matter. The coin can no longer be conditionally valued. The value is only intrinsic or based on extreme rarity such as a cleaned 1893s Morgan.

Don't understand how a dealer could think that it was not cleaned. Did he really think that only the edge had been handled by someone with dirty fingers?

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 Posted 04/24/2016  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Timewise44 to your friends list
denco7, Thanks for your feedback! I am still trying to learn the basics, the guy who saw the coin worked in a local jewelry shop that also deals coins and precious metals. Along with this coin collection, that was passed on to me by my late Father, I had a few 'large' currency notes. Folks on this site encouraged me to get one of them looked at, it has now been sent in for Grading. At the time I was in the shop, having him look at the currency bills, I showed a few of my coins to the dealer. That's when he made that comment....

Since I am now retired I am getting interested in learning more about coin and currency, and have the time. Right now, all I know for sure is that I do not know! And I am old enough to ask for and to respect feedback from those who do know. Problem is telling the knows from the think they know, if you know what I mean...?

Thanks for your comments....
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04/24/2016 4:35 pm
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 Posted 04/24/2016  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Photos can be so deceiving, with flashback often leaving a coin's surface looking unnaturally bright. Cleaned or not, it grades EF-45 to me, possibly AU-50 at best.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
It was dipped at one point but not mechanically/abrasively cleaned.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list
Looks at least dipped to me. I would give it an AU50 details.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georgescoins to your friends list
AU details.
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 Posted 04/24/2016  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
XF details
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 Posted 04/24/2016  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list
XF details for me...Stay with it! you will soon be able to spot most details coins easily..it's also often hard to tell from pics' only
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 Posted 04/24/2016  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
AU-50 Details.
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 Posted 04/25/2016  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
XF details, heavily polished - not just a dip
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 Posted 04/25/2016  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Timewise44 to your friends list
Thanks to all....most agree something has been improperly done to this coin....

I guess the silver value here is all....
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 Posted 04/25/2016  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PAC to your friends list
While I agree something looks improperly done with the coin, I wouldn't get too down on yourself. First, there is definitely more than just silver value there. It is still over a century old coin that probably has a few interesting stories it could tell.

At the end of the day, if it is a coin you enjoy having, it's worth having. Ultimately, spotting cleaning is more for determining financial value and what you'd be willing to pay for something. I will say that there is more financial value than just silver there. That said, there is admittedly probably not a lot, but I don't think it is a melt candidate, either.
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 Posted 04/26/2016  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Timewise44 to your friends list
Thanks again to all for time and comments....still learning! Course, the older I get the more I realize how much I have yet to learn...
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 Posted 04/26/2016  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
When you are taking your photo, you are getting a hot spot in the center that may be making your coin appear unnatural. You may want to pick up a copy of numismatic photography by Mark Goodman to improve your coin photo skills. I paid about $15 for a used copy.
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 Posted 04/28/2016  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Timewise44 to your friends list
Slider23....thanks for the book recommendation...I will check it out!

You all are great, thanks for the continued support and guidance.....I would pay you all in coin, but looks like none of my coins are worth much...SMILE!
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