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1807 Capped Bust Half. Let's Talk About It.

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 Posted 05/10/2016  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
I have seen this look (dark gray fields with lighter surfaces on the high points) on half dollars (Draped Bust and Capped Bust) before. I don't know know if it has something to do with tightly packed envelope box storage or not. I once owned an 1805 half dollar with something similar. That coin was higher grade, and the look prompted me to sell it.

An any rate my grade for the coin would be VG-8. If it were in a higher grade that toned look would bother me, but for a coin with this sharpness it's okay.

The 1807 and 1808 Capped Bust half dollars were quite a bit different from the later pieces. There is a enough difference to constitute it as a different type in my opinion. That's why I bought a fairly nice, but not outrageously nice one for my type set.

Note the notch on the 13th star, on the star point closest to the rim. John Reich did that on all of the silver and gold coin dies that he made as a sort of "signature." The die variety collectors spotted that years ago.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
It does look VG and maybe even VG10 because the overall appearance is good with no major distractions for the level of wear. The cap has amazing detail remaining and E PLURIBUS UNUM was fully struck.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list

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The cap has amazing detail remaining and E PLURIBUS UNUM was fully struck.


The stikes on these coins were very uneven. Some elements are sharp while others are surprisingly weak. It's on of the reasons why these coins are hard to grade. Despite his reputation as the most qualified die maker in a America, John Reich had so learning to do about making dies for pieces that were met to go into circulation. The much rarer and seldom seen 1808 quarter eagle had its stike issues also.

Some people might give this coin a higher grade that VG, but that might be a tough sell given the lack of hair and eagle feather detail.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I'm at VG-08 as well. Thanks for the info, bill.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
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 Posted 05/10/2016  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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...Some people might give this coin a higher grade that VG...


I'm one of them. An F12 grade on that holder would not surprise me. I said VG10 but could see it going Fine.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
I could see as a fine graded coin as well, but I'm going with VG-10.

Nice coin.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Here is what NGC called it. I think it is spot on. Not enough meat for fine. G-6 is harsh. Thanks for all the comments and info! I enjoy talking coin with you guys!

1807-Capped-Bust-Half.--Let's-Talk-About-It.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list
Nice grade

I enjoy talking with you, too
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Nice coin. Thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 05/10/2016  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
VG-10 looks right
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 Posted 05/10/2016  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
VG10 is very accurate in my opinion.
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I was clearly too conservative with my estimate of G6.
I am glad I was a wrong!
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 Posted 05/11/2016  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
I'm glad I was the first kid on the block to call it! Winner! Too bad it does not come with a prize...like the coin...
nice pick up
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 Posted 05/11/2016  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Good call DS. GERMANIC, G-6 really wast a harsh call. I can see it coming in that low. Great to hear everyone's opinions.
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