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Scam: Ebay 4 PCGS Coins Exceeding 1 Million Dollars

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 Posted 05/24/2016  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GregJG to your friends list
Ok.... So I asked them for pics of all the coins on the table and got this....
https://myalbum.com/album/fV4wsez3bNUY

My head is confused. I was 100% sure this was a fake ad, now I don't know what to think...

If you click on the info beside each photo, one is made using "photofiltre studio x" which appears to be a program with photoshop like capabilities.
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05/24/2016 09:31 am
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 Posted 05/24/2016  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list

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. It seems odd that when you click the seller and then items for sale, this lot does not appear

Thats not what I see.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
I think these have been overlaid on a wood print background, if you zoom in close, you can see the pixelation and missing part of holder. If it is too good to be true, it probably is.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Reported.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list

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Thats not what I see.
OK, the item number link takes me to ebay.com because I'm in US, then pick seller, items for sale, and it only shows one stamp collection - these clicks keep me at .com. Click on the other link and I get ebay.ca, which shows all the items. That must be the difference.
The top two photos have a shadow of the holders, the bottom two do not. Oops! Back to photoshop!
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GregJG to your friends list
thank you bobby131313!
Also the rotation of the coins is incorrect for the 1871 and 1915.

When you flip the holder over the 1915 coin should be right side up, but is not.
When you flip the holder over the 1871H coin should be upside down, but is not.

For reference:
http://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/worl...ption-071515
http://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/worl...ption-071515
http://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/worl...bnail-071515
http://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/worl...bnail-071515

I pray this item gets deleted and someone doesn't spend tons of money on this fake ad.




Scam:-Ebay-4-PCGS-Coins-Exceeding-1-Million-Dollars
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
These pictures are easily gotten from Heritage website. The orientation of the coins are not all correct. I don't know why one would do that. It is a dead giveaway, being that the PCGS certs are the same as the Heritage ones. So there is no way to claim that it is a rotated die error. This is quite interesting.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GregJG to your friends list
AD HAS BEEN DELETED YAYYYYYYY!
Thank you again bobby131313

I hope sellers like this have their accounts banned and deleted. This is intentional and elaborate scamming.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Good eye purelywasted! At a glance it looks like a legitimate photo, although I have no means to zoom in to the pixels. But looking closely I notice that comparing the sharpness of the wood-grained background, several corners of the holders are blurry. The coins appear either oddly out of focus or worn, certainly not the gem quality of high MS. The shadowing of some to the right, others no shadow, is also questionable, plus the total fuzziness of the PCGS hologram.

Once again the only feature that stands out is the grading label, nothing of the actual coin quality. Sure sign of a scam. That and the potential inability to accept PayPal, whereby funds would ordinarily be held from the buyer until the purchaser has the order in hand. It's possible that the successful bidder of this perceived windfall would be so elated that they'd agree to transfer the money by some other means and the seller would vanish.

One other sign of a scam that is very common to is the reason for selling - (in French) the seller is home bound with a serious illness. The world has gotten to be a very small place, that a major NA dealer wouldn't jump at the opportunity to fly to France if invited to buy this extraordinary collection, instead it's hawked at low price on ebay, nah because the only thing the seller has in hand is grainy photos and photoshop equipment.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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AD HAS BEEN DELETED YAYYYYYYY!
Thank you again bobby131313

I hope sellers like this have their accounts banned and deleted. This is intentional and elaborate scamming.



And Thank You GregJG for noticing and questioning the ebay ad! It's very educational for everyone here to observe the great lengths that scammers will go to.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
The two top slabs also have shadows going right (from what looks like natural light), while the bottom two don't. I think that light is way too strong to not yield a shadow on those two considering how consistent it is coming from the left edge of the photo.

I'm glad to see the post has come off. Good work guys :)
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05/24/2016 10:37 am
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GregJG to your friends list
My pleasure. Maybe in the far future there will be video verification of ads... much harder for the average person to fake.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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A sold item from April 13, stamp collection, US$7100, says "while my accounts were hacked" in the description, and how they now cannot take paypal. Seems a safe bet that their account is still hacked. It seems odd that when you click the seller and then items for sale, this lot does not appear..


kbbpll, the reason you couldn't see the ad may be due to the seller not selecting shipping of that particular listing to the US.

I noticed the stamp collection was also relisted. Interesting to notice the active bidders on the initial lot at the higher price range then totally disappeared the second time around. The "successful bidder" had a star rating of only "5". Makes one go hmmm.......

Seller lion6774
USA Stamp Collection 1847 - 1940
182065350721 March 31, 2016 sold for $18,300 US

Relisted
182083013646 April 13, 2016 sold for $7,100 US
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 Posted 05/24/2016  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
Glad to see it is gone.
Fairly elaborate hoax.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Thanks for all the photoshop proof. I haven't even used that yet, we will if it comes back.

We removed it for no reverse images the first time because its quick.
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