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New Member
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am looking at the rims and denticles. What I see screams fake. The overall appearacne looks quite off as well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If the dealer is confident your coin is real, ask him to make an offer to buy it and send it in himself.
My guess is that he won't, because he isn't.
If he offers you $50 or $100, consider it your lucky break.
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New Member
 United States
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I can take another pic of the edge when I get home tomorrow. I've been out of town. Do you need a different angle of the edge than the one I posted? Thanks...
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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For a change, I don't think this is straight forward and cannot immediately reject this as a counterfeit. I do hold reservations as I do not have experience handling an example. This is not an obvious example where one can discard it as a counterfeit straight away. Weight wise, this is actually within tolerance weight level of what a tael is. I wish the photo was taken directly, not from an angle. Can you please retake another photo so that we can make better comparison? Here are some examples which may be of reference http://www.coinarchives.com/w/resul...&results=100
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New Member
 United States
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I will post more pics tomorrow from straight on. Thank you!
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New Member
 United States
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Here's a couple straight pics,  
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New Member
 United States
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Took this coin to 2 more local coin dealers today. Best of their knowledge looking in the books and weighing it they both generally thought it was real. They did say it had been cleaned at some point with some minor surface scratches. Should I send this to get it graded as the next step? And to who? Not seeing very many sales online for this coin except for a few big auction houses. What do you all suggest I do next? It's a 1904 one tael hu-peh province
Thanks....
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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As I don't live in the US, I don't understand how the overall grading process works. Many Chinese coins often get sent to PCGS or NGC for grading. I'm certain PCGS may have the better edge of grading Chinese coins but there's nothing wrong with NGC.
While it certainly does seem that it has been been cleaned, if this turns out to be genuine - this is still a rather scarce coin to start off with. I understand that the grading cost may be quite expensive initially but there still remains the possibility of it being genuine. This is still easily a four figure coin despite it's condition.
Best advice is to stick to your guts and see through the whole process. While the majority of Chinese coins are deem to be not genuine / replicas / fantasy / counterfeit etc, this does not seem to be one. Best of luck and I hope it's genuine!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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New Member
 United States
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Seems too..... Never saw that test before, thanks... 
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New Member
 United States
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Well, I guess I'll try to find a local coin shop that will send this somewhere for some kind of grading and hope it comes back I guess. Then figure out how to get it into an auction I suppose.
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Pillar of the Community
Singapore
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Some of the good fakes are actually made with silver too, those  s.
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New Member
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts |
Inappropriate place to offer buy. At the same time, historical sales seem to suggest that it was sold higher than 5000 dollars. More examples can be seen in previous link in earlier post. Cleaned etc http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...e4caf7578e45
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