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Help With Chinese Hu-Peh One Tael

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 Posted 06/06/2016  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1973 to your friends list
Thanks zac....
Good pics!
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 Posted 06/06/2016  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
I am looking at the rims and denticles. What I see screams fake. The overall appearacne looks quite off as well.
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 Posted 06/07/2016  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
If the dealer is confident your coin is real, ask him to make an offer to buy it and send it in himself.

My guess is that he won't, because he isn't.

If he offers you $50 or $100, consider it your lucky break.
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 Posted 06/13/2016  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1973 to your friends list
I can take another pic of the edge when I get home tomorrow.
I've been out of town.
Do you need a different angle of the edge than the one I posted?
Thanks...
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 Posted 06/13/2016  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
For a change, I don't think this is straight forward and cannot immediately reject this as a counterfeit. I do hold reservations as I do not have experience handling an example.

This is not an obvious example where one can discard it as a counterfeit straight away. Weight wise, this is actually within tolerance weight level of what a tael is. I wish the photo was taken directly, not from an angle. Can you please retake another photo so that we can make better comparison?

Here are some examples which may be of reference

http://www.coinarchives.com/w/resul...&results=100
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 Posted 06/13/2016  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1973 to your friends list
I will post more pics tomorrow from straight on.
Thank you!
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 Posted 06/13/2016  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1973 to your friends list
Here's a couple straight pics,


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 Posted 06/14/2016  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1973 to your friends list
Took this coin to 2 more local coin dealers today.
Best of their knowledge looking in the books and weighing it they both generally thought it was real.
They did say it had been cleaned at some point with some minor surface scratches.
Should I send this to get it graded as the next step? And to who?
Not seeing very many sales online for this coin except for a few big auction houses.
What do you all suggest I do next?
It's a 1904 one tael hu-peh province

Thanks....
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 Posted 06/14/2016  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
As I don't live in the US, I don't understand how the overall grading process works. Many Chinese coins often get sent to PCGS or NGC for grading. I'm certain PCGS may have the better edge of grading Chinese coins but there's nothing wrong with NGC.

While it certainly does seem that it has been been cleaned, if this turns out to be genuine - this is still a rather scarce coin to start off with. I understand that the grading cost may be quite expensive initially but there still remains the possibility of it being genuine. This is still easily a four figure coin despite it's condition.

Best advice is to stick to your guts and see through the whole process. While the majority of Chinese coins are deem to be not genuine / replicas / fantasy / counterfeit etc, this does not seem to be one. Best of luck and I hope it's genuine!
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 Posted 06/14/2016  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
Does it pass the tissue test?
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 Posted 06/14/2016  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1973 to your friends list
Seems too.....
Never saw that test before, thanks...

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 Posted 06/17/2016  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1973 to your friends list
Well,
I guess I'll try to find a local coin shop that will send this somewhere for some kind of grading and hope it comes back I guess.
Then figure out how to get it into an auction I suppose.
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 Posted 06/18/2016  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list
Some of the good fakes are actually made with silver too, those s.
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 Posted 06/24/2016  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonyLee to your friends list
$5000
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 Posted 06/25/2016  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
Inappropriate place to offer buy. At the same time, historical sales seem to suggest that it was sold higher than 5000 dollars. More examples can be seen in previous link in earlier post.

Cleaned etc http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...e4caf7578e45
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries
My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm
Regularly updated at least once a month.
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