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1937-D 3 Legged Buffalo Nickel Grading Help - Estate Sale Find

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 Posted 07/27/2016  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
I don't think I would sell it.

Would also follow what edweather said, with one addition. Keep in holder, leave on window sill for 6 to 8 months. Flip every week or so.
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 Posted 07/27/2016  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list
Considering it is worth at least $1000 in AU I think you did very well. If the person who sold it to you for $50 ever finds out how cheaply he sold it for he/she is going to cry. I have a 3 legged 1937 in VF condition and I spent a great deal more than $50 bucks for it. Do you think you will try and complete a set of Buffalo nickels now? If you could get the rest in AU condition you would have quite a set. Most of them I see are barely in good condition and being able to clearly read the date and see the full horn I feel elated.
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 Posted 07/27/2016  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalsa123 to your friends list
Terry, I am very happy that I picked this up for $50, I was disappointing because after looking at hundreds of pictures of AU and UNC I was pretty sure it was going to come back either MS or UNC details so I was just a little surprised. But do not get me wrong, I love the coin and think it looks awesome, and I might try to complete a set.
acloco, what does leaving a nickel on a window sill do? When I get the coin back I ll post more photos and you guys tell me if you think I might have a shot at UNC at NGC or ANACS. It was shipped today priority so I will have pictures very soon of the slabbed Buff.
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 Posted 07/29/2016  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list
It does look better than AU Details to me. Where are the "details"? The back of the coin looks even better than the front. It has a nice patina so I don't think it has been cleaned IMO. The horn on your coin is so distinct I don't think I have ever seen one that good and I have a common Buffalo in MS 60 and it does not look that good.
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 Posted 07/29/2016  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Leaving it on a window sill could tone it up a bit and hide any light wipe marks which could have caused the details grade giving it a better chance at stright grading after
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 Posted 07/29/2016  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I suspected it had been cleaned and commented that fact when you first posted back in June.

You can now play the crack out, let it tone and resubmit game. That's what the TPG companies want you to do!

With what you paid you should still be very happy. Leave it alone and enjoy it (or sell it). It is what it is!
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 Posted 07/29/2016  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalsa123 to your friends list
Here it is!

1937-D-3-Legged-Buffalo-Nickel-Grading-Help---Estate-Sale-Find

1937-D-3-Legged-Buffalo-Nickel-Grading-Help---Estate-Sale-Find
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 Posted 07/29/2016  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
After seeing the coin in the slab I concur 100% with PCGS that the coin has been cleaned.
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 Posted 07/29/2016  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalsa123 to your friends list
Being that I do not usually collect Nickels, What should one look for when purchasing a Buffalo nickel, What are the most important signs of a problem coin? I read these types of metals can be dipped in acetone and not effect luster, how could one tell if that is the case? I appreciate any knowledge on this type of coin because I like it and I might start collecting them and putting together a set.
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 Posted 07/30/2016  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list
I got this stuff called "E Zest" from my coin dealer and it does a tremendous job on silver coins and is not considered "cleaning". It is a dip and will get off certain kinds of bad toning and spots. I used it on a couple of my Morgans. It does not say that it works on nickels. I don't think you can "un-clean" a coin. Somebody somewhere down the line must have understood that the coin had value or they would not have cleaned it. That must have been lost in time if you got it for $50. If you dip your coin and even use a soft toothbrush it is considered to have been cleaned according to my LCS dealer. Even the toothbrush may leave tiny marks on the coin indicating it has been cleaned. Every time I go to my LCS I learn something besides buying coins. That kind of knowledge will go when he retires and shuts up the store. That will be a sad day.

When looking at Buffalo nickels if it is a rare one in MS condition I would buy it slabbed and graded. Otherwise, I pay special attention to the Buffalo's horn. Yours is very distinct. Most you find "raw" will probably be much more worn in anything less that EF condition. I leave it up to experts on cleaning here to answer that question. I can recognized cleaned and polished coins like on Morgans under magnification. If you buy on ebay you can expect many of the raw coins to have been cleaned and even polished. Your got a very special and rare good deal on your three legged Buffalo. That does not happen every day.
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 Posted 07/30/2016  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list

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I got this stuff called "E Zest" from my coin dealer and it does a tremendous job on silver coins and is not considered "cleaning"

Every time I go to my LCS I learn something besides buying coins.


Ummmm, you know what you just said is the textbook definition of cleaning a coin.

And if your dealer told you using EZest is not considered cleaning coins I'm sure every silver coin you bought from him was dipped.
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 Posted 07/31/2016  09:26 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
To me the coin looks to have been lightly polished. Enough that as soon as you see it you know it's been messed with. It's too bad but it's still worth good money. It is what it is.
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 Posted 07/31/2016  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list

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Ummmm, you know what you just said is the textbook definition of cleaning a coin.

And if your dealer told you using EZest is not considered cleaning coins I'm sure every silver coin you bought from him was dipped.


Wrong. "Cleaning" is using an abrasive to scrape away the patina, such as a cloth or brush. "Dipping" is using a chemical to change the chemical makeup of the patina (in this case Ag2S) to the base metal (Ag), or using a chemical to strip the top layer of metal off the coin (ezEst does the former). The two are mutually exclusive, although it is possible to overdip a coin by stripping away the luster.
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 Posted 07/31/2016  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Yeah, a quick dip if you know what you are doing is generally acceptable. Half the Morgans in problem free holders have probably been conserved/dipped.
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 Posted 08/02/2016  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list
E Zest just removes certain sorts of grim, oil, dirt and unnatural toning. You cannot turn a VF silver coin into MS coin just by dipping, but it does a lot for eye appeal. I bought a AU53 Morgan that had unattractive marks on the surface for a pretty cheap price. This was probably because of the ugly mark on the coin. E Zest got rid of it and I bet I could get more money for the coin now, but it would still be a AU53 coin.
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