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Question About 1938 Canadian 5¢ Glowing In Front Of The King Error

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 Posted 06/20/2016  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Might someone kindly describe or link this variety/error please? Google is not being helpful and I've never heard of it before so I don't know if I have one, but it sounds interesting.

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 Posted 06/20/2016  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Quatchi to your friends list
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought this error was caused by strike weakness.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...ts-1937-1952

I've always thought it looks similar to radial flow lines.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
The result of a die nearing the end of its life. This is a very common occurrence on nickels of the 1922 through 1942 period.
To call them varieties is a misnomer. More correct is calling them a poor strike as a result of well worn dies. Most numismatists would prefer a well struck example over a spongy look.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed Woodruff to your friends list
Thanks for the information everyone the guy wants 3x the value of the coin and wasn't sure because of the error if it was worth it or not
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 Posted 06/20/2016  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Errors are pretty simple to value, if you look at it if there's no wow factor, generally there is little value, off planchet errors on larger denominations are rarer and greater value.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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Coins and Canada is not always a reliable source for varieties/errors.


I would second that point - however, it is all we have in Canada.


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 Posted 06/20/2016  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
To call these errors is yet another misnomer.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Then what would you call them Jack? What exactly do you call die cracks, over polished dies, Die Deterioration, die burn, peeling of the chrome plating or die clashes?

They are errors. Any unintentional change to the die after it is installed in the press (meaning, after the die is produced, and not subject to engraving by hand) that subsequently strikes a planchet and is imparted on a coin, is an error. Some errors are big, some are small... some are valuable, some are a detriment to value...
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 Posted 06/20/2016  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
wouldn't this be more of a variety than an error?

while unintentional isn't it just one of those expected anomalies that is part of minting process? (along with die cracks, weak strikes, polished dies)

maybe it's just me, but I tend to think of errors as one of a kind occurrences, such as struck through object, off center strike, wrong planchet.

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 Posted 06/20/2016  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
I think a variety has to do with a device, or abnormality due punching and or hubbing, 1926 far near 6, the myriad of 1859 penny varieties etc. while error is due to the strike itself or a preexisting problem with the planchet? STrike through double strike, off centre etc

I'd call this an error? Either or, it wasn't intentional
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 Posted 06/20/2016  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list

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Then what would you call them Jack? What exactly do you call die cracks, over polished dies, Die Deterioration, die burn, peeling of the chrome plating or die clashes?


From the CCF glossary

die state
A readily identified point in the life of a coinage die. Often dies clash and are polished, crack, break, etc., resulting in different stages of the die. These are called die states. Some coins have barely distinguishable die states, while others go through multiple distinctive ones.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
First of all....to CCF ,enjoy your stay with us.!!

Second, the 1938 five cents is very hard to come by in AU condition, I was at a coin show with 20+ dealers and only one dealer had a 1938 in EF-40 which I purchased.
Third, we have to see a photo of said coin to really be able to give you a response.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
There are currently 622 ICCS certified examples in AU50 or better as of the 2016 ICCS POP Report.
458 of these are MS 60 or better examples. Due to the way the 1938 five cents were struck , many concave and weakly struck examples exist. Lustre is usually somewhat lacklustre , but examples do exist with a somewhat polished bright prooflike look. Strike is a big problem with this issue. Fully struck obverse coins in 64 or better probably do not exist.
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 Posted 06/20/2016  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...ts-1937-1952

I've always thought it looks similar to radial flow lines.


Thank you, now I understand what is meant by "glow in front of the king".
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