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1971 LMC Maybe A DDO?

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 Posted 07/01/2016  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list


I am not convinced....yet!
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 Posted 07/01/2016  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list
Not your typical MD. Thinking more like the die bounced or stuttered maybe. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 07/01/2016  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
John:

I don't think it's a DDO

Abraded Die (IMHO)
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 Posted 07/01/2016  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
Sorry, looks like MD to me. The one on CC is short and not all over the coin like yours.
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 Posted 07/01/2016  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grnwavdav to your friends list
This die has actually been studied quite a bit. Here is a link to John Wexler's thoughts on the die: http://doubleddie.com/144864.html

I agree with Wexler's conclusion, I believe the anomalies are to be the result of die abrasion doubling and not hub doubling. But it's still a cool study coin and worth keeping.
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 Posted 07/02/2016  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Thank you grnwavdav for the link,it looks a lot like my coin.I will put it in a 2x2 and label it Die Abrasion Doubling.
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 Posted 07/02/2016  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list
Nice find John, a good reference coin.
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 Posted 07/02/2016  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
John - I think a couple things going on here, but I do think it is DDO. I found one similar a few months back that coop helped to vet, and it was DDO. Mine didn't have the artifact above LIBERTY though but did have action around the 9 and 7. When I get the chance, I will look better at LIBERTY on my specimen.
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 Posted 07/02/2016  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnCentMeHere to your friends list
Yes thank you grnwavdav for the article!
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 Posted 07/02/2016  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
I browsed the link and took a look at the Cherrypicker's guide. Seems as noted here that most folks are leaning towards die fatigue and other 'abberations'. My cent is different, but more similar to listings at Wexler's site.

Eitherway, Cherrypicker's notes that this coin, due to its 'character' is still collectable. AU specimens are still worth by their listing at $13. Fun find either way!
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 Posted 07/02/2016  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Thanks for the info Kevin.
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 Posted 07/02/2016  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list
Interesting article. I think John1's example is in better condition than the one published. That shows its not a one time event.

If the experts once listed it DDO, and then some recant may mean it could be thought as DDO by some still and or relisted in the future by the others.

Abrading the die (though not impossible) in such a pronounced, but two different ways (liberty and the date) leaves me with more future thinking on this one. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 07/03/2016  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlueSolo to your friends list
Very interesting coin


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abrasion doubling is considered to be a form of die damage and not a collectible form of doubling.


I'd disagree with it not being collectible. It's a very nice curiosity piece. It's very collectible, just not in the same sense that you should expect the premium a double die would offer.

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 Posted 07/04/2016  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Looks like the second section on Mike Diamonds web site

Abrasion Doubling
Part X. Wastebasket/Composite Categories:
Doubling: Abrasion Doubling (debunked)

http://www.error-ref.com/?s=abrasion

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 Posted 07/05/2016  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Thanks coop.
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