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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree with nss-52, all valid points.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Even the V.(D.) B. looks a little off to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Good job everyone, this is an added MM fake.
- Wrong MM position - MM is close but not quite right - Missing the die chip in the S upper loop - VDB, missing periods, this doesn't happen on the genuine coins
IMO, the coin was altered while it was mint state. However, as the coin was passed around over time, it has some wear. I call it AU-58. I can only dream of the history, I'm sure it's passed hands a few times.
I obtained this from a dealer I frequent at a local show. He had it for "over 10 years", I'd look at it every show and he refused to sell it to me....but I'd ask him everytime. After YEARS of my bugging him, one day he finally asked how much I'd give him for it. We eventually settled on a fairly high price because I wanted it so bad. It's one of the best fake SVDB's I've ever seen and had a touch of "woodiness" to it.
I hope everyone enjoyed the new pictures of it!
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Rest in Peace
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BadThad,  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Must be added MM - definitely not one of the 4 known die pairs.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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You can see a little bit of glue or whatever they used to put the mint mark on, it looks like some squeezed out around the mark.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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NSS said exactly what I was about ready to say...
Authentic coin, just not authentic mintmark. That being said, it's a 1909 VDB.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Good job everyone, this is an added MM fake.
- Wrong MM position - MM is close but not quite right - Missing the die chip in the S upper loop - VDB, missing periods, this doesn't happen on the genuine coins
Question: If it's an added MM fake why is the VDB missing periods? 
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Rest in Peace
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Question: If it's an added MM fake why is the VDB missing periods? This is quite common with the plain VDB's, those dots get easily filled in with grease. Since the run of S-VDB's was small, the dots are always there. I think I've ever only seen one S-VDB with ONE weak dot. They are normally fully formed.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks Thad - that makes sense.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The woody helps this coin pass the first glance test.
Thanks for sharing!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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acloco - Please explain. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The field of the coin, WITH the woodgrain, helps the added mintmark blend. In hand, without a loupe, this coin looks like a high AU or a MS coin with a late die state obverse set of dies.
In this case, I would call the woodgrain, camo!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A good fake. S and last dot of VDB are wrong though. It was a 1909 VDB. Then the person removed the last dot of vdb and glue a S on the obverse. How much do you pay for the coin?
Edited by mdrosophila 08/25/2016 10:47 pm
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