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How Can One Tell If Its Real

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 Posted 08/20/2016  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Best way to avoid fakes. Educate yourself to what is authentic. Do not look for deals as there are none.
Buy from reputable dealers and get proper invoices.
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 Posted 08/21/2016  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
It depends what you use the silver for. I melt my bars so I know what to look for when I cut them up and introduce heat to them. For your purposes it's much harder because you want to maintain the re-sellable form, so learn learn learn. A realist will drill a hole straight through a bar and test the powder with acid. Anyone else will just trust the seller from whom they bought the bar and just simply pray it's real. A realist buyer will not care that there's a hole through the bar, instead just weight the bar again and pay what it's worth. It's only metal. If someone says it's silver (or gold, as the case may be) you should not trust their word, but be very diligent instead. Homework and knowledge will save you time, money, and maintain good relationships with your sources. Never rely solely on them because they can make human mistakes. The first bars I ever bought were real and I was lucky but today I'm not so trusting and I check them anyways.
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 Posted 08/21/2016  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list
There is a reason why ASE and Maple Leaves Austrian Philharmonics etc all have a much higher than spot markup: because you can easily verify if they are legit or not based on design details.

The Sunshine mint has a decoder ring you can buy to verify if their bars or rounds are legit but that requires the purchase of their tool and how long before the fakers buy one and counteract it.

If you buy generic rounds and bars from a legit source you should be OK but when it comes time to sell how do you prove it?
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 Posted 08/21/2016  05:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list

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Just buy paper metals. At least then you know it's fake :)
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 Posted 08/21/2016  08:16 am  Show Profile   Check beem's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add beem to your friends list
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 Posted 08/21/2016  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add winston55 to your friends list
New to stacking as well, but I've learned quick to avoid things like ebay unless it is from a verified seller like an APMEX, scottsdale, JM etc. It's just not worth the risk to maybe save a few bucks...I have a few items I got off ebay a few years ago and they are suspect. Thankfully only about 30oz of silver.
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 Posted 08/22/2016  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cuzzx to your friends list
thanks guys .
one thing keeps running through my mind.

why would you buy silver and melt it?

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 Posted 08/22/2016  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grinx76 to your friends list
to make things out of silver (jewelry, sculpture, embellishments, etc)
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 Posted 08/29/2016  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liquidsilver7 to your friends list
i Buy bullion from Reputable spots.

There are Reputable bullion Companies on ebay also.

I put bids up once in a while with veteren ebay members with 100%

Look for names you recognize.
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 Posted 08/29/2016  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
A better question would be, why would you buy silver and not use it? :P
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 Posted 08/29/2016  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add winston55 to your friends list
Yes, it's easy just forego a potential "good deal" and opt for the sure thing...no since in risk everything to save a few cents an oz
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 Posted 02/21/2017  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crazyglue to your friends list

Dumb question from someone relatively new at this:

For silver 1 oz coins, as an example, if the coin in front of you have the correct diameter and weight, is that generally enough to be confident that it is real?

I know silver is dense, so usually if it is not silver it is not the proper weight and diameter. Or is there a lot of lead filled 1 oz bullion out there?

I am not good with ice cubes, kleenex and pings. I even have the special magnets but coins I know are not silver roll down them like silver does sometimes.

I am looking for something pretty accurate and more scientific. A statement such as "tolerable weight and diameter means that >90% it is genuine."

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 Posted 02/21/2017  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
Depends on where you're buying from. I have never measured or weighed any bullion or felt that I had to. If I buy, it's from a reliable source.
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 Posted 02/22/2017  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockfish to your friends list
You could just stick to circulated junk. I don't know of any counterfeiters who have bothered faking circulated silver Roosevelt dimes or Washington quarters.
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 Posted 02/22/2017  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list
Stick with reputable sellers, JM Bullion, Provident, APMEX, MCM...the list is very long of places you can purchase silver.

Only buy from trusted sources and you will be fine.
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