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The "american Innovation $1 Coin Act"

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 Posted 10/15/2016  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list

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The worst thing is that I feel driven away from quarters and dollars as a collector. I really wonder if the mint is doing more harm than good to the hobby?


I'd say that things come and go. For some new stuff in a hobby is not seen as great, but will actually attract new people to the hobby, and allow for more variety. I started collecting coins because I lived in the US and saw the State Quarters and informally collected them up until 2001. Then I moved to Spain and the Peseta was going out and the Euro was coming in during my first six months at the end of 2001.

For me this new was what attracted me. I had never thought to collect the coins of my own country which had stayed almost the same my whole life.
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 Posted 11/28/2016  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
Has there been any updates on this coin act? Does the POTUS have any authority over the US Mint or Federal Reserve? Can the President just be like, "hey stop government waste and eliminate the penny or dollar bill?".
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 Posted 11/28/2016  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
It's a law. If Congress approves it, it goes to POTUS. He can sign it or veto it and congress can allow the veto to stand or override. This is basic civics class - SOMEBODY slept through Jr High.
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 Posted 11/28/2016  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Gone nowhere, nothing has been done since it was introduced and referred to committee to die.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th...se-bill/6025
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 Posted 11/29/2016  07:41 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
Collectors aside, the coming trend is that people DO NOT WANT ANY coins at all.

Coins are dirty, heavy, get lost, wear out your pockets, and end up in a jar, bowl or can. Eventually this needs to be disposed of and it is tiresome to roll them up and take them to the bank, or take them to a CoinStar machine (which then takes a cut).

People don't want to have to carry coins around to pay for the amount of their cash purchase that is between two whole dollar amounts. They don't want to have to dig in their pocket or purse to see if they might have the correct amount, and too many people these days can't add well enough to pick out the correct coins anyway.

Clerks at stores get annoyed whey YOU pay them with more than $1 in coins. Some get confused if you don't give them the EXACT amount of coins. It takes more time.

Banks are suspicious when you deposit rolls of coins because they think you are going to cheat them out of a coin or two. Many banks now CHARGE you when you bring in large amounts of coins.

I think a LOT of people would be happy if there was a way to eliminate coins altogether. I have an idea, but will make a separate post about it at a later date.

The people (in charge) in government that could stop producing coins that people do not want, have competing incentives to KEEP producing them. Mining and metal production companies, transportation companies, minting facilities, etc. all have financial reasons to keep making coins. Those that profit from the continued minting of coins make sure that government officials stay interested in making coins by "convincing" them to keep voting to make coins.

It will take CHANGE (pun intended) to get the established way of doing things switched to something more convenient, less cumbersome, and not fueled by the financial interests of a few.

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 Posted 11/29/2016  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Does the POTUS have any authority over the US Mint or Federal Reserve? Can the President just be like, "hey stop government waste and eliminate the penny or dollar bill?".

Yes he can through an Executive Order. But as much as I would like to see the cent and dollar note eliminated, I as sick and tired of Presidents governing by Executive Orders. I would much rather see the laws written and passed by the Congress as the Constitution intended.
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 Posted 11/29/2016  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list

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Yes he can through an Executive Order. But as much as I would like to see the cent and dollar note eliminated, I as sick and tired of Presidents governing by Executive Orders. I would much rather see the laws written and passed by the Congress as the Constitution intended.


This is what I was thinking about when asking the original question about the authority the POTUS has on this matter. I do however agree with you on the overuse of executive orders. I often wonder how far the move to eliminate the cent and dollar note with having a republican house, senate, and president. Maybe this is something that can seriously be looked at. While the government makes seniorage off the dollar coins, I still cannot see the logic to continue to mint these only to go site in a government vault. As a cashier and consumer, I absolutely despise the use of pennies. They are so dirty and corroded.
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 Posted 11/29/2016  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I often wonder how far the move to eliminate the cent and dollar note with having a republican house, senate, and president.
It does not matter. The zinc and paper lobby have support on both sides of the aisle.
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 Posted 12/01/2016  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan78 to your friends list

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It does not matter. The zinc and paper lobby have support on both sides of the aisle.


There is one company in the United States that supply the zinc for the Cent and even they told Capitol Hill that doing away with the Cent coin would not hurt their bottom line as it it is a very small portion of the company's profit for the year...

Now granted, I'm sure they appreciate the Governments business, who wouldn't?
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Now granted, I'm sure they appreciate the Governments business, who wouldn't?
Exactly. Grabbing hands grab all they can.
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 Posted 07/24/2018  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Well, folks, it's happening whether we want it to or not.

And they're going to be collector-only/NCLT.

Can't believe this thread is a year and a half old already.
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 Posted 07/24/2018  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Sorry, did not realize it was being discussed again here.
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 Posted 07/24/2018  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
From the thread "Coin Collector Humor":


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"I Want my CoinTV"

Now look at them Bozo's, that's the way you do it,
You play the Noobies on the CoinTV.
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Money for nothin' and your coins for free!

Now that ain't workin' that's the way you do it,
Lemme tell ya them guys ain't dumb!
Maybe get a Thumbprint on a face,
Or get a scratch on the backside...

We gotta sell these micro-error beauties with custom case deliveries
We got to move these re-issued Staters, we gotta move these ATB's!
We gotta sell 'dem micro-error beauties with custom case de-liver-ies
We got to move these re-issued Staters, we gotta move these ATB's!

I shoulda learned to play the gullibles,
I shoulda learned to outplay them scums
Look at that mama, They be rackin' it in on ebay,
We could have some REAL fun!

And The Wiz up there, what's that?
Hawaiian noises?
Bangin' on the bongos like a chimpanzee...
That ain't workin' that's the way you screw 'em,
Get your money for nothin' get your coins for free!

Listen here!
Now that ain't workin' that's the way to do it
Play the Noobs on the CoinTV
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Money for nothin' and your coins for free...
Money for nothin', coins for free,
Money for nothin', coins for free,
Money for nothin', coins for free,
Money for nothin', coins for free,
Money for nothin', coins for free.
Easy, easy money for nothin' coins for free) (I want my, I want my CoinTV)
(Money for nothin' coins for free)


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