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Bedrock of the Community
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Why would you question its authenticity? The OP quotes " I have no expert knowledge here. Please assist me. That's probably why he asked the question and being a fairly new member we should try to help him out. |
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Why would you question its authenticity? Jack, what part of Quote:
I have no expert knowledge here. Please assist me. ...was not exactly clear to you? Not everyone is a numismatist, or a coin dealer or a silver dollar expert here... people ask questions like these, because they want our experience and knowledge. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin is genuine. Last time I looked at this thread it was in the ebay counterfeit reporting section. If that's where pacificoin saw it I can understand his query. No coin nor seller should appear there without warrant. Newbie or not the purpose of the counterfeit section is readily apparent if one only would take a few seconds to read the forum description and instructions. Deservedly or not the seller's reputation was tarnished by the coins appearance in that section. Just as people don't bother to read the forum description or instructions, there are many, many who don't bother to read the text of the post but just click on the link to see a "counterfeit" coin and a seller of such. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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11/30/2016 10:58 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thank you DBM. That is exactly how I felt when one of my ebay listings .... a Canadian Nickel Dollar error was reported to ebay as counterfeit. Too many people with too little knowledge , too quick on the draw to report alleged counterfeits. The best advice that anyone can give to any new members who arrive on this forum is buy the odd book about numismatics , attend a coin show or two , join a local coin club or national or international numismatic society , and befriend other established Collectors . Also drop a few bucks at your local coin dealers, even if only to buy a new coin set or some supplies or a copy of a numismatic newspaper. Many members on this forum , ( myself included) are more than willing to help others and do every day. Ultimately it is up to the collector to get educated for themselves or numismatics can be a long dark lonely journey. |
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United States
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It's real but it's asyn, notorious for overgrading. I wouldn't pay "BU Flawless TOP" money for it.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It's genuine IMO. You could buy some early George dollars from the 50's to help you understand the surfaces of these types. Not too expensive. Books will help and coins in hand.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 Well said. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Wouldn't a 1947 B7 be the least chance of counterfeit, being the least valuable of the 1947 varieties? Criminals are lazy, not necessarily stupid.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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There were some cast silver counterfeits that were in the market back in the 1970's. Mostly 1945 1947 ML and 1948. They had a dull grainy off colour look to them and were ever so slightly rotated. They looked VF ish in appearance and would have fooled some Collectors for sure.
INSAB was well aware of them at the time. Source was most likely the Middle East or Lebanon. Have not encountered one in well over twenty years. Hopefully they have all been blow torched. Can never recall seeing a 1947 Blunt or Pointed or 1946 of that particular style counterfeit.
Best advice buy all the keys certified . Best way to stay out of any predicaments.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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This is a photo of a counterfeit 1947 Dollar I have in my file for comparison. Note the difference in the date and the thick bottom of the letters in "DOLLAR".  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You could buy some early George dollars from the 50's to help you understand the surfaces of these types But keep in mind below advice from Calgary Coin, which I didn't realize until a few years ago. Quote:
The new obverse design, again by T. H. Paget, arrived late in 1948 and was used until 1952. The inscription now read "GEORGE VI DIE GRATIA REX" (Latin for "George 6th, by God's Grace King") and with deeper hairlines making the coins look sharper in mint state than earlier dates. This affects how the coins look in all lower grades and one cannot use the same grading standard for 1948 to 1952 dollars as for 1937 to 1947 dollars. They would have to wear to VF-30 before the hair looks as muted as it does on uncirculated examples of earlier dates. I would grade it AU Details based on the obverse. Zooming in I see horizontal hairlines and that gash below the ear seems to be on the coin. |
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United States
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Seller says "flawless".
Photos show otherwise.
Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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ASYN... is notorious for being generous with grades and conditions. Older silver coins are primarily cleaned/harshly cleaned, but described as flawless. I would assume nothing from this seller is better than a XF40 - details.
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Valued Member
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Thank you everyone! You are all of great help! And I have been very careful with any coin I buy on ebay lately, there are even fake king George V nickels being counterfeited! |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Mike9999999-
Anytime your in doubt about a coin,
don't hesitate to post a picture or
the listing here for an opinion.
If you can point out your area of concern,
that would also help..
The counterfeits are getting so good
that they can even fool some of the experts.
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