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You Vs ICCS 1946 Dollar

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 Posted 12/02/2016  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list
so since it appears I missed the mark given the other grades - can someone help me understand what I am seeing : it appears to me there is wear in the hair on back/top area of head and the cheek/jawline and then below the ear to the right a little down on the neck there are 4 what appears to be nicks. It is entirely possible I am losing my mind and my eyes are deceiving me

I did get the variety though!!
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 Posted 12/02/2016  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Thanks for replies so far. The top photo was the best I could do to show the hair as it appears in person. My other photos, like the second one, look like scans and are a bit deceiving. Pre-1948 the hair on these lacks detail. One of you is oh so close to what ICCS said. Everybody so far is missing something.
(Edit - no offense taken, scopru!)
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 Posted 12/02/2016  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Looks like a recently graded MS60. SWL for Variety.
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 Posted 12/02/2016  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
Alright I will try again, ms62 swl cameo
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 Posted 12/02/2016  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list
Die clash on the reverse

Cheers, Bill
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MS-62 SWL
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 Posted 12/03/2016  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
are we missing the double HP. because I at first thought it was, but can't see well enough from the photos.
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 Posted 12/03/2016  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Thanks for all replies. And the winner is...

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Pacificoin got the actual grade. Apitrix, you were oh so close right out of the gate, but no Cameo. Sorry my photos were deceptive. No DHP. Everybody got the SWL. Only Bill got the die clash.

Pacificoin, I picked this up in August 2004 so it's not "recently graded". Does the "TT 353" tell us when it was graded? Yes it's pretty flecky in the fields. ha.com has many 62/63 examples, some ICCS, that are a lot more beat up than this one, but as usual, grading is in the eye of the (be)holder.

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coinsandcanada shows nearly the same clash for 1946, 47, 50, 51 and 52. Mine also shows the same clash inside the ear as this 1952 http://goccf.com/t/228046&SearchTerms=1946 which seems like is from the top island line.
Thanks everybody!
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 Posted 12/03/2016  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list
That is a really cool coin. Lots of things going on. Thank you for sharing.
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 Posted 12/03/2016  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apitrix to your friends list
Darn! Pictures made it look cameo! So close but yet so far haha!
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 Posted 12/03/2016  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I didn't even know SWL or die clash existed for this when I bought it - I just wanted a 46. Didn't discover it until years later.
ha.com sold one that has both, so it's probably not uncommon (NGC MS63): https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...bnail-071515
I wasn't aware of Cameo either until this thread (thanks Apitrix!); Heritage sold one (ICCS MS63): https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...bnail-071515
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 Posted 12/04/2016  09:04 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Nice coin . TT series for ICCS probably around 2000- 2002 ? I have a 1951 and 1952 PL Silver Dollar with this TT prefix acquired in 2002 in a grade.
Show us a closer look at that die break , looks really interesting. Cheers.
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 Posted 12/04/2016  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Pacificoin, if you're talking about the die clash in the ear, below is the best I can do. @abderrahim has better pictures of it on a 1952 here http://goccf.com/t/228046.

Charlton calls the reverse a "die break", and shows it for the 1950 and 1951. But it calls the 1948 "hearing aid" a "die clash". So I'm not sure what the correct terminology is. I always thought die break and die crack were the same, and die clash is something different.

Maybe I'm the first to see the ear die clash on a 1946?

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 Posted 12/04/2016  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Actually the reverse spearlike effect over the head of the Native Voyageur . Would like to see a closeup of that.
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This is zoomed from an older photo but probably the best I'd be able to do anyway. Pretty similar to the rest of them - die clash of George's forehead coming out of the native's head, and blob of metal behind native's head from George's eye. I can try other angles/lighting if there's something specific you're interested in.

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