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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks fairly original but the photos show the coin with signs of some minor porosity IMO. Still quite an attractive coin and well bought at the price.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Flashback does make it tough, but EF-40 sounds right if surfaces are original.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In "the good old days" this would have been a VF 30. Now it's an EF-40.
I have some concerns about the flip. It might contain PVC, and if it does you should get a new holder. Leaving in that non safety flip can result in PVC damage.
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Looks XF-40 to me. Good price to pay.
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Bedrock of the Community
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XF40...do not use overhead lighting it washes out the coin making it difficult to grade. also crop the pictures so that they are larger in the future. use the image optimizer on this site to do that. nice coin...nice price
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VF35 to me, love that die crack, that makes up for any value lost in my grading, maybe even adds value!
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  What do you guys think? Looks like someone rubbed this coin with oil at some time to remove dirt. Edited by 0xDA71D
12/16/2016 11:04 am
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Wow, nice pictures. I think it is AU50 details cleaned. Nice strong strike from a cracked obverse die that apparently wasn't late state or very worn. Fantastic detail in leaves and other devices. There is some rim damage. Better than the original pictures. XF45 net of issues that marginally detract from the coin. A very attractive coin and strike.
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Quote:
I think it is AU50 details cleaned. What are you seeing that makes you think this coin is cleaned? I don't see any signs of cleaning. Quote:
There is some rim damage. There are a couple small hits on the obverse, but if you are talking about the reverse at all, those are rim Cuds, not damage. The dies from this era often crumbled at the edges, making rim Cuds quite common. |
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United States
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There is crud encrusted along all the lettering and crevices in the devices. The fields are sparkling clean. Telltale sign that it has been cleaned.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Not really. That is just an accumulation of finger oils and grime. Such deposits get trapped by the protected areas of the design. You see it all the time with large cents and many small cents. A simple acetone rinse would bet rid of it.
Imagine if you have a coin, and you wiped a bunch of dirt onto it, thumbing it into the small crevaces. The result would be very similar to what you see here. However, the dirt would wash right off, though the OP coin would need a chemical (acetone) to loosen the hardened finger oils.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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much better job on the pics. I had this at XF40 and this coin has way too much detail for that grade. the details in the highest points of the leaves and motto are at least XF45 and I think could go as high as AU50
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree. That gunk will probably come out easily.
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