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Edited by Imthealphaomega
12/26/2016 6:43 pm
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Get these in a NGC Registry fast. If they are in the registry before the 1st, you can cross them to NGC for 50% off the normal price. Even if you could care less about having a registry it's a great way to get half price grading.
Read their information before submitting as I don't remember if you can minimize the risk with minimum grades.
50% off is worth the time to look.
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2nd set of pics are much better but IMO the only chance you will have at a 66 is the 1883-O as long as those marks are on the slab and not on the coin.
Edited by Mark1959
12/26/2016 6:48 pm
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NGC crossover allows you to keep the ogh if it doesn't upgrade. I could not find anything on the NGC site about keeping the OGH if it does not upgrade. NGC does note that a higher minimum grade than on the holder can not be specified. They do have a special for a 50% discount on crossovers for registry coins and no charge if the coin does not cross. The coins must be in a registry set by 1/3/17. If you do not have a registry set, start one and you can get the discount. You must write on the submit form: special discount for crossover registry. |
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After reading it more carefully you are right Slider. Basically I either will crack them out (But then I lose the OGH and potential premium down the road) or I just keep them as is. Or I could also go the crossover way with the special event. I honestly don't know what to do now. I would honestly to see a few more ms66 coins in my set (with my PCGS ms66 1881-s, 1883, and 1886). Advice is appreciated. I am still sending coins in a undergraded 1899 P Morgan, and 2 gold dollars.
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I am still sending coins in a undergraded 1899 P Morgan, and 2 gold dollars. Do you mean the 1888 P or something else? It's the only one in the pics that looks to have a good shot at 66. I wouldn't cross a PCGS 65 to an NGC 65 even if it was free so be careful. I used to do this type of stuff all the time (usually ANACS-NGC to PCGS) and most of the time was disappointed and lost money of course. I am trying to be realistic based on what you have, nice PCGS/OGH MS65 Morgans that would be weak 66s if they made it at all. P.S. Cracking them first could easily land you a couple 64s. That is the highest risk proposition but it's your money. Risk is commensurate with reward they say. Edited by BH1964
12/26/2016 9:15 pm
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I was considering the 5 OGH Morgan's, but I also have a 1899 P Morgan that I'm quite confident will be a 65 along with. 1873 $1 gold which is probably a 62/63 and a 1855 type 2 gold dollar which was cracked out of a first gen NGC holder which is probably a au55 today. I may crack out the 1888 P in general and send it in raw, and will probably do the same for the 1883 O as I feel those have the best chance of making a 66. I'm gonna double check them all tomorrow morning before I do anything or send anything out.
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It's the only one in the pics that looks to have a good shot at 66. Is that the actual picture of a weak Obverse strike? I'm probably wrong but I thought when you get into the MS 66's and above do NGC, PCGS consider weak strikes in their gradings? Edited by Mark1959
12/26/2016 9:34 pm
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The 1883-O has a better than average shot, and the 1900-O has a long shot due to the weak NO strike and that cheek scratch, the others are solid 65's and would probably CAC in the grade. FYI -- check that 1900-O really, really close -- look at the 2 stars just right of the date -- if they are doubled to the south, you've got a very scarce (and very desirable) double clashed VAM 15A, your coin appears to be a dead ringer for the die markers seen on the double clashed plate coin. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Adam I sent you a text. You are dead on with the vam15. How much value does it add? I may crack it out and send it in raw and have it attributed.
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It's a top 100 VAM. Not sure how much value it would add, at least a slight premium with VSS attribution or from NGC/PCGS/ANACS. Cascade, Dave, or one of the other VAM Forum regulars needs to fill in a bit. Since it is a top 100, NGC will attribute it. You can cross it over and specify variety attribution, I think, although I'm not sure. If you want to leave it in the OGH, VSS is the way to go. SSDC Registry has 2 66's at the top of the CC for 15A double clash, with a ton of 65's tied for #2, so this is not exactly a condition scarcity. Edit: Most recent data I can find shows two 65 V15's in PCGS holders selling around $180-190 range at HA, both NAOH (unattributed VAM 15's.) This is a better coin for a 65, and in an OGH, so pricing would likely improve on that slightly, and maybe bring a bit more if a VAM collector was working on a T100 set or a double-clash set. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
12/26/2016 9:55 pm
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Is the 1900 O in a PCGS "doily" holder? If so, they command a premium. Would definitely NOT crack it or cross it over. On a side note, I don't see any benefit in trying to crossover. Regardless of what might be deemed a higher value IF a higher grade is achieved by crossover or grading...definitely a cost versus return. What are real world values of MS66 coins, in any TPG holder, actually trading for? |
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No. It's not a doily holder. But it's a 100% match for vam15a. I see sold ms65 VAM 15a selling in excess of $300. |
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With the new photos, I think all are MS-65.
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I worry that the apparent hits in the lower right obverse field might keep this one to 64, but I agree on 65 on all the others.
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12/27/2016 4:38 pm
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