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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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MS65PL. DMPL depends on the contrast and the depth of the mirrors, both of which are nearly impossible to tell from pictures. The difference in color between both pictures is mildly disconcerting. This is an extremely attractive, and very scarce, coin in this condition. Values - very rough estimates only as PL/DMPL pricing varies immensely from coin to coin based on cameo contrast, luster, toning, frost breaks, mirror depth, bag marks, VAM, etc, etc. 64PL $1200+ 64DMPL $2500+ 65PL $2200+ 65DMPL $5000-$7500+ Finest known at PCGS = 8 MS66PL, 3 MS66DMPL. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
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At least 65PL, just a super example, congrats.  Edited by Coinfrog
01/17/2017 4:42 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I blew this up and took a closer look at the surfaces. there is what appears to be a small nick at 13 oclock on the obverse and the rest looks like light rub. I retract and revise my initial assessment and regrade it at MS65 PL. this is killer coin! if you submit it, please repost and let us know the result whether it gets the acclaimed DCAM designation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm not so sure, the close up photo isn't detailed enough to really tell if the marks above and below the eye are luster breaks or coin strikes, disrupting the metal. I'm tentatively at MS64PL for this,,,
MS63PL if there are indeed hits on the cheek area, one doesn't often see PL in this date anymore.
Would be killer in an original GSA Holder.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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It looks like it could make MS-65 PL.
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MS 63+ or low MS 64 PL. Send it in! What kind of holder is it in?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I think the cheek is limited to MS63 and I can not say with any certainty that the coin is PL.
Are both sets of images by you?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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oh my! well this goes to show you how the photography can hide and disguise. MS63
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Is this even the same coin?
Reverse MS64PL
Obverse MS63
Net grade MS63
By the way, those are die gouges, not scratches.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
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From the new pictures, I would also think MS-63.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My original grade of MS63 still stands, no way it's going to MS64 and now I don't think PL would be a correct call either.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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