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1895 Indian Head Cent , Just Found In Roll...is It Real? Grade? .. Thanks.

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 Posted 02/20/2017  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
It is real but the reverse has a lot of damage. Grades about XF details.
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 Posted 02/20/2017  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ter215 to your friends list
WOW ...thanks paralyze, does have some damage. the field looks very good. don't know how it survived without someone snatching it up .....VERY COOL
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 Posted 02/21/2017  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Looks real to me, and a nice find in a roll...
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 Posted 02/21/2017  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
It looks real, but it also looks like it took a hit or something on the reverse which gives it a concave / convex look. I would wager that if you set it down on a flat surface, it would not lie flat.

it's a great find from a roll however, and it would be interesting to know its history, given what appears to be an odd. If it has the problem I covered above, it should have a lot more wear or flattening of design on the convex side.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add batboy to your friends list
Yeah, it looks legit, the 1895 is a common date, so that's not one that would typically be counterfeited (like the 1877, which is a key date and can be quite expensive). It's nice to find a little Indian in the wild. On the obverse, see the headdress "ribbon" that hangs down her neck? It has what is called "full diamonds" because all four of the diamond pattern is clearly visible. This is important in grading and also indicates it has strong strike. It's a shame there are some issues on the reverse, which would probably keep it from getting an AU grade (although the obverse might be AU-50). I would put it at XF-45 (a XF-40 coin will have the lower hair curl clearly separated from the ribbon end and a XF-45 will have full diamond detail). Again, it's awesome to find a nice IHC in circulation.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
I like it at XF-45 details. I'd call the obverse AU-50 with a weak strike reverse and rim damage. Roll find? Most excellent!
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 Posted 02/21/2017  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I like the concave/convex theory.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ter215 to your friends list
thanks everyone on the grades......yea no banks were open & I had to have some rolls so my daughter got some from a gas station & a few stores that were open and bam, this came out of one. what a surprise....it does lay flat on both sides...also got some wheats, .little tip, I try as much as possible to go to these little stores for rolls because people sometimes pay with them and you find some good stuff, ya never know.....cheers , thanks again.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
I don't like anything about this one. Raised bumps on some lettering, mushy edge denticles, pits on the 9. Guess I'll be contrary and say this one came from a Chinese Mint.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smoke1439 to your friends list
I'm an amateur but I want to agree with IGE just don't look right. But if the coin graded straight XF no dings it's a 5 to 10 dollar coin. Why would they counterfeit it?
Guess my safe bet is to buy slabs only. Anyway great find ter215, hope it's real.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Pretty sure it's real. I can't find a match on the no no site but they have plenty at $1.15
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 Posted 02/21/2017  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add batboy to your friends list
I'm no expect, so I will defer to others that know better than me, but it seems illogical counterfeiters would do a 1895 IHC. Also, why would it be in circulation? I had the understanding that the counterfeit Indian cents had indistinct diamond pattern and muddy "LIBERTY".
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 Posted 02/21/2017  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ckbrenner to your friends list
Great you can still find stuff like this! minimal wear although lighting makes hard. I'd say AU detail but damaged rims and shield. Probably cleaned/polished
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 Posted 02/21/2017  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
AU-50 Details.
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 Posted 02/22/2017  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ter215 to your friends list
thanks everyone for your opinions you have been great ! ....i took some pictures with my cannon powershot with no flash under light, hopes this helps with grading....I'm super happy ... thanks again...terry.

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