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Small Date 1982 Cent? Rare?

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 Posted 03/17/2017  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mnknight77 to your friends list


so out of the original 7, which is the rarest?

and what does MM mean?
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 Posted 03/17/2017  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Mnknight, none of the original 7 are considered rare. There wear billions of all minted. The small date copper and zincs being started later in the year may be slightly less in population but by no means rare, sometimes hard to find a good quality of either in circulated finds.
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 Posted 03/17/2017  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mnknight77 to your friends list
OK, so no rare ones.

Does mm mean mint mark? So was Crazyb0 speaking of the mint mark on the picture in the article link?

It has taken me a long time to find small dates and a long time to find the zincs, but I haven't roll hunted either....



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03/17/2017 11:58 am
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 Posted 03/17/2017  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here are the two styles used that year for the obverse:
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Note how the bust is a different size as well. Note the distance under 'WE' to the top of the head?
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 Posted 03/17/2017  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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The MM position may simply be a marker for the 1982D copper Sm date.

HIGHLY unlikely. I would bet that die probably made somewhere around a million zinc cents as well. And if there were any other copper planchets mixed in with the zinc planchets, there would be no reason they couldn't get sent to a different press/die pair.
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HIGHLY unlikely. I would bet that die probably made somewhere around a million zinc cents as well. And if there were any other copper planchets mixed in with the zinc planchets, there would be no reason they couldn't get sent to a different press/die pair.


Good point. this wouldn't be a die error. More like a planchet error. Could've been done on numerous dies.
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 Posted 03/17/2017  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Here's PCGS OFFICIAL 8 coin issues for 1982.

PLEASE NOTE: 8th listed variety is the S Proof NOT the 1982D small date discussed above on another quoted thread!


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Looks like PCGS doesn't recognize a small date 82D zincoln!

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That may be because the only known piece is slabbed by NGC. PCGS has never seen one.
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 Posted 03/18/2017  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mnknight77 to your friends list
"Looks like PCGS doesn't recognize a small date 82D zincoln!"



I thought the rare was the small date 82D copper? Isn't the small date 82D zincoln on the end of 2nd row?

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03/18/2017 11:53 am
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Condor... that makes since. Which is the official group? PCGS or the NGC? (not sure if I got those initials right...)
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 Posted 03/20/2017  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
There is no such thing as an "Official" group. There is no authority that bestows "Official" status on these things. Yes you will see some things accurately called official, such as NGC being the official grading service of the ANA. But that doesn't make them the offical grading service of anyone else. The ANA bestowed the designation on them and it only relates in reference to them. (And why id the ANA chose them to be the "Official Grading Service"? For their quality? Their accuracy or consistency? No because NGC offered them money money and more free grading for the officers than anyone else.)
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Condor, Thanks for the political information. This information is gold because you never really hear about why things are the way they are.
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 Posted 03/20/2017  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
An attempt to buy favor with collectors.
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Those all look like Philly 82 small date to me.

without real numbers of small dates minted.
nobody could accurately predict the value of 82 small
dates minted.

My calculations 2.5 billion pennies could be
small date.

However I keep all small date 1982 like I keep 2009s

Finding a small date 1982 would be like finding a 1968
not rare but still hard to find in change.

Does anyone have a real number of 82 small dates?
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 Posted 11/03/2017  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
No, we don't even have accurate numbers for copper and zinc production. So large and small date production would be an even more of an unknown.
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