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1912 S Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 04/17/2008  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kceb10 to your friends list
I'm going to go with F-15
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 Posted 04/17/2008  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Tpatna, I agree on 20 for an approximate grade. The color worries me. There was a seller on the bay that use to sell the prettiest chocolate brown coins you ever wanted to see. I bought one early on and the color was just too uniform and not quite the right color. Well, the coin cost about 20 bucks so I was not too concerned. After awhile, I decided to put it into acetone and you guessed it, off came the color (or a lot of it anyway). For what it is worth, this coin has a little of the same appearance on the screen.

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 Posted 04/17/2008  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Hi Tim
I'd agree with VF-20, possibly VF-25. I also think the coin has a "cleaned" look due to the color. It just seems a bit dull and smoothed over in a way that's not quite original. Still, it might be tough to find a better example in this grade. It ought to do very well for a circulated date set. Did you get a good price?
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 Posted 04/17/2008  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
I would call it a F-15.
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 Posted 04/17/2008  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
The color looks ok to me, I would wait till you get it to decide though, lighting is everything. Jim you can say the name of the seller, Nancy something if I remember right, she still sells on ebay and every time I see one of her listing it makes me cringe. Grade VF-20-F15 as many have already said.
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 Posted 04/17/2008  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
I think it is more of a F-15 than a VF20 since the reverse shows a lot of wheat lines gone. VF20 definition above says no worn spot on wheat heads, and clearly there is wear on the wheat heads, so I couldn't give this a VF20 based on that definition.
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 Posted 04/17/2008  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilbo to your friends list
Another vote for F-15.
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 Posted 04/17/2008  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list
I think the right Tim F-12 F-15
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 Posted 04/17/2008  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
VF-25
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 Posted 04/17/2008  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tpatna to your friends list
Thanks guys. I will get a better look at it when it comes in the mail and maybe take new pictures. I was think VF-25 as well. I got it for $30.00

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 Posted 04/18/2008  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zacharycash to your friends list
I think F 15, maybe VF 20
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 Posted 04/18/2008  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
According to the second edition of the PCGS Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection (there's a mouthful!), a VF-20 Lincoln Wheat cent meets the following description for reverse wear:

"Most wheat lines are blended, with a few separate."

They provide clear B&W photos for each grade level and the one that most closely matches Tim's coin is probably the VF-25 photo. Apparently you are at a VF-35 level if all the lines are separate, since that description says "Some of the wheat lines are beginning to blend."

If PCGS is the gold standard for grading, then my conclusion is that low-end VF coins will have many blended wheat lines and high-end VF coins will have lines that are basically separated.

It certainly sounds like grading standards for circulated Lincolns have loosened up a bit.
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 Posted 04/18/2008  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
You are sure right, chrsb, it was Nancy something.

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 Posted 04/18/2008  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tpatna to your friends list
The ebay id I got this from is GUINESSOENTERPRISESCOINS and they have a 100% out of 6191 transactions....hopefully this coin has not been cleaned
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 Posted 04/18/2008  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list
Reasons I think it's been cleaned:

Strange patina, including residual (aurora (or) borealis-type - maybe even dip residue) marks from some sort of liquid once on the coin.

The pitting on the obverse looks like it was cleaned so it now looks like clean pitting.
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