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Suggestion To Use Tls/Ssl

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 Posted 05/26/2017  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
I find it horrifying it's being shoved down our throats. It's 100% not necessary here, and a huge waste.
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 Posted 05/27/2017  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentCollector to your friends list
It's not a huge waste, and plus many websites use it even though there is no transfer of confidential information (except for maybe your email address, which by the way, is needed to create an account for this website).
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 Posted 05/27/2017  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
Numista was almost entirely inaccessible for several hours a few days ago, when their HTTPS certificate accidentally lapsed and the security settings didn't allow just using plain HTTP.

I personally really don't want this happening with CCF.
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 Posted 05/27/2017  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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It's not a huge waste, and plus many websites use it even though there is no transfer of confidential information


Well, good luck to those sheeple. I repeat, huge waste.

We'll end up having to do it of course since Google controls the internet and will just stop sending traffic. I'd love to see if Google or one of it's shells just bought stock in any SSL companies.
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 Posted 05/29/2017  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
Omg! C'mon guys. Are you kidding me? This is NOT an ecommerce website. What are you worried about? Someone hacks the site and gets your email address? Guess what? If you've had your email address for over 3 months, chances are, spammers already have it in their databases.

You don't provide any personal information to this site other than your email address.

You're not exchanging any financial information through this site.

Get with the program!

Bobby: you have my sympathies

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05/29/2017 12:52 am
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 Posted 05/29/2017  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list
Let me throw in my Two Cents from a guy who ran web development company.

It's pain in the behind to implement requirements mandated by SSL companies, which by the way, changes frequently.

I believe this forum is run by volunteers. Getting servers up all the time is a tall task. We don't need to add another headache. At least I was getting paid. But, most importantly, I don't think we "need" SSL for now. IMO.

My hats off to bobby for his work
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05/29/2017 02:38 am
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 Posted 05/29/2017  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I will also add that hacking the site itself really has nothing to do with SSL; SSL encrypts the data going back and forth when you post and not what is stored on the CCF servers. Since basically everything you transmit to CCF ends up publically posted, there's not much risk there. The only real risk is when you log in, but as long as you don't re-use the same password for other sites like your bank, there's really no risk. If you are using the same password elsewhere, you should fix that for MANY reasons, SSL being pretty far down on the list.

I know enough about SSL to know it is some work to set up and keep current; there are different ciphers and protocols that get hacked / compromised and so then have to be updated which then can cause browser compatibility issues, etc. We have a couple of guys at work who really know this stuff luckily.
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05/29/2017 10:27 am
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 Posted 05/30/2017  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list
that was fast~~
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 Posted 05/30/2017  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
Technically, I understand the issues with doing it and the relative lack of benefit, but KenKat's comment about the insecure login did catch my eye and there is something to be said for being recognized as HTTPS from the outside (human perception of security, Google ranking).

Well done, hope it doesn't come back to bite you too much.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
Yes I did. @Bobby how much did it cost to do? If you don't feel comfortable answering I understand. I am also a webmaster and have looked into it purely to improve my rankings.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
It was $138 dollars a year for both here and the stamp site. $69 a site.

I've also been working since 6 AM this morning fixing broken things.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list
Well that's a lot cheaper than what I was quoted. Might be time to fire my web developer and change hosting companies.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list

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I've also been working since 6 AM this morning fixing broken things.


Looks like the Image Optimizer is among them.
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 Posted 06/07/2017  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Just wait until TLS 1.3 comes out. Yay.
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