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Pillar of the Community
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I agree it's Die Deterioration Doubling, it's so severe you can see the "orange peel" fields also. I'm not convinced it's plated, considering where it came from. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Re-processed coin. VLDS die state when the coin was struck. All direction of die wear is towards the nearest rim. Not a doubled die, and the re-pro pretty much reduced collectable value to face value. (but still a Wheat cent) |
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coop how can you tell it's re-processed? This coin was obtained from an "OBR" of 1943 cents. I compared them to two similar coins that I know are re-processed as the clearly look chrome plated and confirmed by two local coin dealers. These look much brighter than my circulated coins but are more grey (duller) than the known re-processed coins. Thank you in advance for any additional help.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It's a very extreme case of Die Deterioration Doubling do to too much die wear. VLDS (Very Late Die State). The die was about at it's end of it's lifespan. No extra added value for this error. Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think the color is off a little in your pics MS12, maybe that's why he said that. Unless I hear of a tell on repro, I think it's original.
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08/18/2017 10:46 pm
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I found this old post of coop's talking about the difference. Also, others have mentioned that if the edges are shiny, it's replated. The original coins edges were never shiny due to the steel being coated before the planchet were punched out of the sheet. Quote:A re processed 1943 steel cent will appear glossy, but a real 1943 steel the surface will appear flat in appearance.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Re-processed coin have a look that is not correct. The zinc coating on a normal coin does not look shiny. More like a satin look.  When they are re-processed, then they coin look very shiny, and enhances any imperfections. (rust/die deterioration/damage) they stand out even more on them.This thread created a need for a SBS image of the differences. Now we have one. Edited by coop
08/19/2017 12:49 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Good info, I appreciate it. Thank you both. I suppose most of this true for regular cents too?
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's too bad about the coin being reprocessed.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes. Altered surfaces can happen on any Steel cent. Keep in mind that the breakdown of the dies happen quicker because of the Steel dies/steel planchets. Clashes also happen more often on the steel cents reducing the value on them. (possible the zinc plating on the steel may have cause them to hang up a bit during the striking process)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Good point Coop. That's true about the Steel cents about the breakdown of the dies and more Die Clashes.
Errers and Varietys.
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Valued Member
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I want to thank everyone for the great information. It's greatly appreciated
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Bedrock of the Community
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Your welcome.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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