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Bedrock of the Community
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It's a small rim clip, not PMD.  The pressure during striking pushes the metal outward and with very small clips, the metal will actually make contact with the collar. However, there is not enough metal to create a full rim. On this one, I see a tapered rim and also some slight Blakesley Effect opposite the clip on the obverse. It appears as a slightly "flattened" rim SE of the date/mm. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru
10/18/2017 10:45 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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This is not PMD. This is a guinuine small Clipped Planchet. I can see the Blakesley Effect on the opposite rim. Nice find. Errers and Varietys.
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10/19/2017 12:09 am
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Rest in Peace
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Thank you everybody! I have just spent the last few hours reading all about how a coin is clipped and what the Blakesley effect is. Looking at this coin again, SE of the date I can see that there is some Blakesley effect. Tomorrow I will post some more pics with close up of said area. As I am still learning, I wasn't aware of the Blakesley effect other wise I would have looked for it. My apologies.  Stay tuned!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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No apology necessary. That's what we're here for, just like someone else was there for me to bring up the Blakesley Effect. I knew nothing about this hobby before but, have been here for nearly a year now. I've learned so much since then. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Rest in Peace
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Thank spruett001!  This one got me thinking that if I researched what I think the issue of the coin may be first, I would of known what and where to photograph. Just a little personal insight  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:It's a small rim clip, not PMD. The pressure during striking pushes the metal outward and with very small clips, the metal will actually make contact with the collar. However, there is not enough metal to create a full rim. On this one, I see a tapered rim and also some slight Blakesley Effect opposite the clip on the obverse. It appears as a slightly "flattened" rim SE of the date/mm.  Nice find! |
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It looks like a small clip to me. Nice find! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very tiny rim clip. Not PSD. |
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Pillar of the Community
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The clip may have been a bit larger before the minting machine had it's way with it.
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Rest in Peace
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Good morning everyone  This morning I removed the coin from it's 2x2 and attempted to photograph the area opposite the clip to show the Blakesley effect. The pics don't really capture what I can see with a loupe or a microscope but it is there. here are the best pics of the bunch. The first pic is focused on the clip itself with an arrow pointing to the opposite side. The second is focused on the Blakesley effect opposite the clip. I hope these help. like I've said before, I wish that I could download the images that my eyes see to my computer (that made more sense in my head) and post them. Not a bad find considering it's been in circulation for 70 years! This has been a very valuable learning experience for me! than you all!   Edited by Tootallious
10/19/2017 2:56 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like a small clip to me as well. Good eye!
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Bedrock of the Community
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I agree. Incomplete planchet with a small clip on the blank.  Clips happen during the cut out of the blank. The rim is added to the blank turning it into a planchet. Then the planchet is struck. This is an example where you can see where the setup rim raised the edge. If this were PSD, then that rim area would not have been raised. But because this was a small clip, then the setup raised the edge a bit where the clip happened. Unique to see that, but not a large premium for this though.  Edited by coop
10/19/2017 9:23 pm
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Rest in Peace
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Coop has spoken!! Thank yo Coop!  I'm not too concerned about the worth of this find dollar wise.Im more excited that it stayed in circulation for 70 years before it ended up in my hands. That for me, is priceless! Edited by Tootallious
10/19/2017 6:13 pm
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@coop, so nice to have you here and weighing in on these things. Thanks to you and the others here who are teaching me about this stuff!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sometimes I see things that look even new to me. This coin was one of them. I've never considered the aspect of the a small enough clipped area that would be rounded by the upset process. This is the first time I've seen that happen. Most of the time I read through the thread and the correct answer is there already. (great job guys) But sometimes I've seen other things that may be visible also. So I put in an answer to that issue. My goal is to get all of us on the same page. And you guys are doing that. So I don't add a note to that on each thread. Just when I see something different on them. (new or missed)
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